1997-08-05 - Re: bulk postage fine (was Re: non-censorous spam control)

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From: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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Message ID: <19970805161821.15943@bywater.songbird.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-08-05 23:43:46 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 07:43:46 +0800

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From: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 07:43:46 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: bulk postage fine (was Re: non-censorous spam control)
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On Tue, Aug 05, 1997 at 10:28:02AM -0700, stewarts@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> >Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com> writes:
> >> In more general terms: A "free market" fundamentally grants more
> >> control to those with more money.  Postage of whatever variety turns
> >> the medium over to those with more money.  That would, in my opinion, 
> >> fundamentally alter the character of email in a strongly negative 
> >> direction. 
> More to the point, if you're charging prices that don't reflect the
> true costs of the activities, it'll catch up with you after a while;

I am, of course, familiar with this line of reasoning :-).  

However, it is arguably the case that the true cost of email *is*
being paid.  The real problem is that email is unbelievably cheap, for
both recipient and sender -- a sender can send more mail than anyone
can read at a very low cost, and a recipient can easily receive more
mail than they can possibly read, again for a very low cost.  


> The present situation is that the social dynamics and economics are such
> that Tacky People can make money by being rude to everyone without being 
> interesting in return.  While trying to charge money for communications
> may work, I'm inclined to doubt it; the more interesting currency to
> try to model is Reputation, which leads to more like an Ender's Game
> kind of net, or to semi-closed communities like the Well (is?was?).

Yes, virtual cryptographically closed communities.  A concept whose
time has come, perhaps. 

Kent Crispin				"No reason to get excited",
kent@songbird.com			the thief he kindly spoke...
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