From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 1997 23:50:00 +0800
To: Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: FBI calls for mandatory key escrow; Denning on export ctrls (fwd)
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In <3.0.2.32.19970903222635.007669e4@netcom10.netcom.com>, on 09/03/97 
   at 10:26 PM, Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com> said:

>At 11:08 PM 9/3/97 -0400, Brian B. Riley wrote:
>> ... hmmmm,  immediate *lawful* decryption ... which implies that they 
>>plan to end run the Bill of Rights with some law that permits them to 
>>walk in and snoop on the spot ... right now to look at my mail which 
>>needs no key, just a teakettle, they at least have to stop somewhere and 
>>find a tame judge, which removes at least some of the immediacy.

>Finding a judge to sign an order to decrypt the email of a suspected
>child pornographer/drug dealer will take all of 30 minutes. I don't think
>a 30 minute delay will be of any consequence to the government's agenda.
>Not to mention that Freeh lied to Congress when he claimed that they
>would always use a court order. Even today, court orders are not always
>required for wiretaps. This will be no different for future "mandatory"
>or "involuntary" GAK.

>[BTW, does anybody here have any idea why Freeh might stated that he
>preferred "mandatory" GAK over "involutary" GAK? Just curious...]

Well I am not really worried about the "court approved" wiretaps as these
are only a small fraction of all surveillance currently being done by the
Government on it's citizens.

A much more worrisome issue is that of the FBI,CIA,NSA,et al having the
ability of driftnet fishing of communication. Once Big Brother takes an
interest in you its all over but the crying. Even if they can't get you on
what they want they will get you on something else. With current system we
are all felons under numerous laws (yes even you Kent) some are just less
aware of the fact than others.


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