From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:42:39 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Stronghold
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John Young <jya@pipeline.com> writes:

> Dimitri and Adam queried about me receiving a C2-lawyer 
> letter to DV:
> 
> I didn't see the letter, either on cpunks unedited (where I remained
> subscribed throughout the experiment and happily continue to be
> despite genocidal warnings to desist). Nor did I get a copy directly 
> from Dimitri as he claims to have sent as cc, which I doubt.

I' quite certain that I cc'd the letter to JYA.

I think JYA is having a credibility problem.

If I send you the letter again, will you place it in your WWW archives?


> I suspect that if there is, or was, such a letter, it's either a fabrication 
> of Dimitri himself, or a message he calculatedly sought so he could
> flag wave it. A page from the book of secret agents.

Are you questioning the authenticity of the letter from C2Net's lawyers?

Give me your fax # and and I'll fax it to you.  Ask c2Net to verify
whether it's authentic.

> 
> Dimitri, Allah bless his carcass, is a learned and deft provocateur.
> 
> So the problem I've got with Dimitri's allegations is that he's 
> demonstrated that he has the skills and godless urge to spoof,
> spook and hound anybody who crosses him for Rasputin purposes 
> not yet disclosed. Not that that's unusual hereabouts -- and who 
> truly wants forgo comforting righteousness to confront an evil soul.
> 
> Insecure smart cards, those (we) highly miseducated warriors 
> seeking warfare, in our ability to engender and prolong grievances 
> against others and deny theirs of us, and draw people into our webs 
> of revenge and expatiation, against enemies of imagination and 
> passion.
> 
> In this DV, among many, is a fierce do-or-die competitor with, say,
> Tim May, and I still have a hunch that the two (or many) are in 
> cahoots (if only in like mindedness and bulldog tenacity), now, and 
> maybe at the beginning of the grand  experiment of testing 
> cypherpunkian elasticity with orchestrated provocateurism.
>  
> All of us stirring the witches brew with fake innocence and real
> malice.
> 
> None of us are going to quietly give up addiction to bloodlust,
> and will forever nightsweat insults and succumb to the urge to 
> do vainglorious battle for vaporware honor.
> 
> Dementia, due, as ever, to miseducation, haywire ambition, 
> filmic fantasies of glory and immortality, dampened only by
> inevitable glandular wind-down.
> 
> Is this dustup really about the faults of likeminded C2 and 
> Dimitri, or our shared need for diversion from dread of 
> disappearance without a trace?
> 
> Billy Sunday
> 


I think Tim May is cool, except when he flames me for now reason.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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