From: ichudov@Algebra.COM (Igor Chudov @ home)
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 08:24:51 +0800
To: andy@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu (Andy Dustman)
Subject: Re: CFV: comp.org.cauce moderated -- support privacy and anonymity
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.94.971015145200.1887a-100000@neptune.chem.uga.edu>
Message-ID: <199710160011.AAA21851@manifold.algebra.com>
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Thank you, Andy.

I hope that the proposal in its current form will not pass if we 
vote against it. In that case, an unmoderated group will be created.

igor

Andy Dustman wrote:
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> On Wed, 15 Oct 1997, Igor Chudov @ home wrote:
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> > For your information -- all anonymity advocates take note of the
> > comp.org.cauce Call For Votes which wants to outlaw anonymity.
> 
> Yes, I find it particularly interesting that the CFV states only that "The
> newsgroup is robomoderated to eliminate crossposts and advertisements
> only" but does not mention that the robomoderation requires a repliable
> (i.e., non-anonymous) e-mail address. (This IS mentioned for the voting
> procedure, but not for the group itself. 
> 
> Also, in <6203tu$kuj@server2.mich.com>, the proponent for comp.org.cauce
> states, "The CFV says people must return an e-mail sent to the address
> from which they make the post," which, as near as I can tell, is a lie or
> error; I got the ballot from my local server (<876781691.12806@isc.org>)
> and it says no such thing, only that it is robomoderated. "Robomoderated"
> does not imply that you "must return an e-mail sent to the address from
> which [you] make the post". Maybe it says that in the last RFD, but not in
> the CFV. 
> 
> At any rate, if for some reason this CFV is approved, I will post
> something to comp.org.cauce with the remailer, and when the reply comes
> back (yes, the return address is valid), I'll reply to it, so cracker will
> be able to post there, until somebody decides, using their "discretion",
> to ban posts from the remailer address.
> 
> If it were comp.org.cauce.announce, I really wouldn't give a shit about
> what the moderation policy is, but it's represented as a group where
> "opinions contrary to those of CAUCE are solicited and welcomed," and I
> don't have too much confidence that this will be the case.
> 
> Spam sucks but censorship is worse.
> 
> Andy Dustman / Computational Center for Molecular Structure and Design / UGA
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	- Igor.