1997-10-23 - Re: Singaporean control freaks & CMR (Re: puff pieces vs tough crypto issues)

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From: “William H. Geiger III” <whgiii@invweb.net>
To: Harish Pillay <harish@ganymede.contact.com.sg>
Message Hash: 94187ac79debc3c44ac15b1aa99691eec78fb927ddee0a58bcf32a02dac884e6
Message ID: <199710231649.MAA26636@users.invweb.net>
Reply To: <199710231543.XAA02822@ganymede.contact.com.sg>
UTC Datetime: 1997-10-23 16:57:55 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:57:55 +0800

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From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:57:55 +0800
To: Harish Pillay <harish@ganymede.contact.com.sg>
Subject: Re: Singaporean control freaks & CMR (Re: puff pieces vs tough crypto  issues)
In-Reply-To: <199710231543.XAA02822@ganymede.contact.com.sg>
Message-ID: <199710231649.MAA26636@users.invweb.net>
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In <199710231543.XAA02822@ganymede.contact.com.sg>, on 10/23/97 
   at 11:43 PM, Harish Pillay <harish@ganymede.contact.com.sg> said:

>Hi.  For the sake of sanity and completeness, the following has to be
>corrected.

>> Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com> writes:
>> > The relevance? Another example of Singapore's loony politics. Strict social
>> > controls and relative economic freedom. I find it fascinating in light of
>> > Net-filtering and other attempts at restricting information flow; if you
>> > don't, well, you can always delete it. :)
>> 
>> The net-filtering and social control aspects of Singapore are very
>> interesting.  Seems that somewhere like Singapore might be an earlier
>> adopter of mandatory GAK -- social ills have hugely disproportionate
>> treatment over there.  I hear (and our Singaporean contributer
>> confirms) that chewing gum is illegal, jay walking too.  (Hey you have
>> the jay walking laws in the US too don't you?)  (I missed the social
>> control aspect of the vote for kewlest public toilet story).

>Chewing gum per se is not illegal.  I just cannot buy them from any store
>in Singapore.  I can chew to my heart's content.  I can go up north to 
>Malaysia, buy a whole month's supply of gum (name your flavour) and bring
>it back into Singapore.  

>So, what is moronically illegal is that I cannot sell that pack of gum.

Signapore is a prime example of "mirco management" at it's worst. Whenever
such management is attempted either in the public or private sector they
fail. It should be intresting to see how long Singapore can keep it up.


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