From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 22:53:48 +0800
To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Subject: Re: This judge needs killing
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In <v0310280bb092291ceb73@[207.167.93.63]>, on 11/14/97 
   at 09:18 AM, Tim May <tcmay@got.net> said:

>At 11:39 AM -0700 11/13/97, Paul Bradley wrote:
>>Uk News:
>>
>>Judge David Selwood today sentenced 3 writers for the magazine "Green
>>Anarchist" to 3 years imprisonment each for their articles in the
>>magazine which he concluded incited others to break the law.
>>The magazine contained diaries for the previous months animal rights
>>activism events and contained articles generally favourable to the cause
>>of animal liberation.
>>
>>Another judge who has richly earned the death penalty.

>This stifling of free speech, by both state and corporate interests, is a
>trend spreadingl like wildfire in the Western world.

>Libel, slander, defamation, damage, incitement, sedition, and obscenity
>cases are squelching free speech. Publishers are held liable for the
>words of others, and even distributors are held liable.

>Even here on Cypherpunks we see toadies like Bob Hettinga fretting that
>our words are going too far, that we must learn to police ourselves or
>the police will be forced to do so.

>(Hey, if the Paladin case withstands Supreme Court scrutiny and his
>upheld, look for the Cypherpunks list node distributors to face criminal
>charges.)

If anyone here needs a real world example of how fear and intimidation
have a stifling effect on free speech all one has to do is look at the
abandoned British subjects in Hong Kong (truly a dark day in this history
of UK). While China has done nothing yet to clamp down on speech in Hong
Kong self censorship is rampet their for fear of what they "might" do.


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