From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
To: jay holovacs <holovacs@idt.net>
Message Hash: b7c14e8f46a14f6a573f9dc0c1252484724995f27f21623e3b7833797cd97342
Message ID: <3.0.2.32.19971205134306.007187b0@panix.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-12-05 19:05:16 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 03:05:16 +0800
From: Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 03:05:16 +0800
To: jay holovacs <holovacs@idt.net>
Subject: Singapore
In-Reply-To: <199712051359.IAA10734@u1.farm.idt.net>
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At 06:44 AM 12/5/97 -0500, jay holovacs wrote:
>This post has a strange deja vu to it. I can remember back in the '60s when
revolutionary wannabes would talk of the glorious peoples paradise while
living in their comfortable suburban homes. How the workers' education system
was open to all, no one was unemployed...
I don't think that Singapore is a fabulous place to live but its total
freedom is probably greater than Germany or France. Our total freedom in the
US is greater than Singapore's.
It has just been getting attacked by those who accept the greater freedom
violations of many other countries including many of those in the EU.
Germans lack many speech and association rights. Germany has asked the US to
arrest and extradite Americans for speech crimes. They have mandatory
address registration with the government (as does Singapore). On the other
hand, Germans have very restrictive labor and commerce laws, high taxes, and
other laws that Singapore doesn't have. Germany has mandatory
"certification" (licensing) for almost every job in the country. Singapore
has some of these sorts of restrictions too but because of its other economic
freedoms, it is freer than Germany.
Germany steals 50% of GDP and blows it on cigareets and whiskey and wild,
wild, women. Singapore steals only 20% of GDP (and requires an additional
20% mandatory personally-owned retirement savings from salaries).
Singaporeans are thus freer to use their own money than Germans.
Singapore is unfree in many ways but freer than many other countries not
usually attacked as tyrranies.
DCF
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