From: "Wilson, Jamie (J.R.)" <jwilso37@visteonet.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 06:51:47 +0800
To: "'cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: RE: Postcard Debates
Message-ID: <199812112135.QAA13074@mailfw2.ford.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain



Back to a previous question: how do we get the public to understand the
concept of an "electronic envelope", the ACLU has created a PDF file that
prints to a brochure format explaining encryption on a level that even the
novice of users can understand.  It is available at
http://www.aclu.org/action/tools/crypto.pdf.

____________________________________________________
Jamie R. Wilson                     




-----Original Message-----
From: Joel O'Connor [mailto:ogrenivek@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, 11 December, 1998 12:47
To: Wilson, Jamie (J.R.)
Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: RE: Postcard Debates


Deep. . .mad deep.  I completely agree, does anyone know of any such
laws regarding e-mail?




---"Wilson, Jamie (J.R.)" <jwilso37@visteonet.com> wrote:
>
> If everyone just encrypted their messages then no suspicions would
be raised
> regarding the use of encryption.  Most people use envelopes, plain and
> simple -- and as a result no one questions what they are hiding.  It's
> understood that mail is private and therefore people have a right to
seal it
> in an envelope and not worry about people tampering with it.  On the
same
> note, there are federal regulations and penalties (in the U.S.
anyway) for
> tampering with mail and interrupting the delivery of it.  The same
laws
> should apply to email.
> 
> ____________________________________________________
> Jamie R. Wilson                     
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Wenzler [mailto:rwenzler@usachoice.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 10 December, 1998 13:56
> To: Mbishop645@aol.com
> Cc: maven@weirdness.com; hab@gamegirlz.com; Cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mbishop645@aol.com wrote:
> > 
> > >HaB wrote:
> > ><snip>
> > >>     That's a good place to begin, though.  "Would you send a
letter to
> > >> someone without an envelope?"  "Then why not put your email in
the
> > >> electronic equivalent of one?"
> > >>
> > >> balance.
> > >
> > >Would I send a letter to someone without an envelope?
> > >One word: postcard.
> > 
> > Ahh, but would you tape a check for your phone bill to a postcard?
Other
> > than writing a greeting to someone what else do you use a postcard
for?
> 
> No, I would not tape a phone bill check to a postcard. There is the 
> chance for it to fall off.
> 
> There is different methods of sending mail for different levels of
> security and functionality. Some people make it obvious what is inside
> an envelope. (who would not recognize a Christmas card from the
> envelope?) Others make it as bland and normal as possible to
> have it go by without much notice.
> 
> It all depends on how secure you want it. Some things you can do
> with what amounts to postcard security.
> 
> What amount of security do you want for your email? Would you be
> willing to do something extra for that security?
> 
> This type of question is up to each person. How much risk is the
> person willing to take. Each person has the responsibility to
> understand what the risks are and to decide what risks they are
> willing to take.
> 

==
Ogre bounces like sonar. . .Peace.
                  Ogre

_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com