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1994-02-01 - Re: archiving on inet

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From: “Perry E. Metzger” <pmetzger@lehman.com>
To: Jason Zions <jazz@hal.com>
Message Hash: 2923c2fa68fa5ae22042efc95d282b0e14ac6d7fa817fd3249af50644a31e334
Message ID: <199402012131.QAA03337@snark>
Reply To: <9402012121.AA01984@jazz.hal.com>
UTC Datetime: 1994-02-01 21:35:29 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 13:35:29 PST

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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger@lehman.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 94 13:35:29 PST
To: Jason Zions <jazz@hal.com>
Subject: Re: archiving on inet
In-Reply-To: <9402012121.AA01984@jazz.hal.com>
Message-ID: <199402012131.QAA03337@snark>
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Jason Zions says:
> >You can archive them forever, and in fact thats part of the news software.
> 
> Yes, you, a recipient, can archive them forever. You *cannot* distribute
> that archive in any form whatsoever.

The news software is explicitly designed to allow remote hosts to
request articles from each other.  Article numbers are never reused --
I can just use a nasty hierarchical storage system to keep all the
news articles I ever receive online.  So, how can you reconcile the
existance of the news software with your quaint notions? Are you
claiming that CNews and INN break the law? Are you claiming usenet is
illegal or something?

> I'm struggling with drawing an appropriate distinction between CD-ROM as
> newsfeed medium and CD-ROM as archive medium.

Maybe you are struggling because there is no reasonable way to make
the distinction?

> Copyright 1994 Jason Zions. Copying or retransmission for the purpose of
> propagation of the Cypherpunks mailing list in email or newsfeed form is
> permitted, except that no copy may be made on any permanent digital optical
> storage medium.

Well, you can now sue all the people who back up their home
directories nightly to optical disk. I believe all the folks at Bell
Labs who use Plan-9 are now in violation of your "copyright".

Perry

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