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1994-02-02 - Re: archiving on inet

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From: “Perry E. Metzger” <pmetzger@lehman.com>
To: jimn8@netcom.com (Jim Nitchals)
Message Hash: 43fa45e8d062f2f539b973e4ff97999ccb3f346600d0ad34379568614e22614d
Message ID: <199402021222.HAA05404@snark>
Reply To: <199402020030.QAA20097@mail.netcom.com>
UTC Datetime: 1994-02-02 12:25:30 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 04:25:30 PST

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From: "Perry E. Metzger" <pmetzger@lehman.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 04:25:30 PST
To: jimn8@netcom.com (Jim Nitchals)
Subject: Re: archiving on inet
In-Reply-To: <199402020030.QAA20097@mail.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <199402021222.HAA05404@snark>
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Many news systems don't understand expiration dates, and some don't
grok cancel messages. CD-ROMs can easily carry cancel messages, too,
by the way -- they are a transport medium.

Next bright idea?

Anyway, people who want to use the law to restrict distribution of
their news articles are extremely foolish. Your words are out there
and they WILL be read. Forever. You can't help it. If you find your
words embarassing, don't say them.

.pm

Jim Nitchals says:
> I've already said it.  I own the copyright to my posts, and only permit
> them to be distributed by Usenet because I can *cancel* and provide
> expiration dates with my posts.  CD-ROMs do not provide these standard
> Usenet message control features.
> 
> If I issue a cancel message, it's obvious that I'm asserting control
> over the further distribution of my content (sites that ignore them
> notwithstanding.)  Any time a CD-ROM is published with my message, and
> it contains an expiration date or is later cancelled, the publication
> violates my right as a copyright holder to retract my message.
> 
> [portions deleted]                         >  No providers of usenet news
> > have any agreements between themselves and the posters regarding 
> > copyrights. Netcom and all the other internet providers receive postings 
> > "free" and a cd-rom manufacturer has the same "right" to use postings as 
> > any other internet provider.
> 
> My expiration dates or cancel messages are perfectly reasonable ways
> to communicate the way in which I'm exercising my copyright.  Netcom
> and other service providers currently honor those communications, but
> CD-ROM publishers of Usenet news do not.
> > 
> > Kirk Sheppard
> > 
> > kshep@netcom.com
> > 
> > P. O. Box 30911             "It is  Better to Die on Your Feet Than to 
> > Bethesda, MD 20824-0911      Live On Your Knees."
> > U.S.A.
> > 			    			     - Emiliano Zapata
> >

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