From: Michael Handler <grendel@netaxs.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:36:12 PDT
To: Jim choate <ravage@bga.com>
Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: BSD random() - any good (source included)
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On Fri, 8 Jul 1994, Jim choate wrote:

> > 	[2] Less than a week after a small flame war about forwarding, 
> > and a suggestion that it be restricted to posting pointers to relevant 
> > info, Jim forwards over 65K of relevant, though specialized information 
> > that no-one had requested. Simply saying "There's some real informative 
> > posts about RNGs in sci.math, thread name "XXX"" have been helpful, 
> > faster, saved bandwidth and people's mailboxes, and not started up this 
> > flame war.
> >
> The forwards were crypto related and relevant to some of the members who
> don't have anything other than e-mail accounts. How do you propose these
> folks get this info?

From: Jim choate <ravage@bga.com>
Subject: Good RNG generator information available.

	Hey, cpunks! For those of you who are interested in random number 
generation, there's a great deal of discussion going on over in sci.math, 
thread name "XXX". If the articles have expired on your site, or if you 
don't have news access, mail me, and I'll send them out to everyone who 
wants one later on.

-- Just an idea... This is what I was doing with the  2600 Cellular 
Telephone article, except that my list of address get scragged along with 
my mail dir.

> While it is true that some of my questions are off the wall, I will 
> continue to ask them. If they bother then .kill me. As an aside to this
> I will continue to remail articles of technical interest (what c-punks
> is about last I heard anything) that I feel have a good case of being
> lost. 

	[1] Your questions (off-the-wall or not) don't bother me.
	[2] I very rarely killfile people.
 
> I would also like to ask a question on a personal (no flame intended) 
> nature. Were you going to post said message about these usenet submissions?
> Other than myself I see very few such re-posts from anything other than
> a newsgroup w/ 'crypt' in it somehow.

	No. I don't have the time or mathematical knowledge to read 
sci.math and determine whahould be forwarded to cypherpunks or not. 

> The flame ware, as I understand it anyway, had to do with forwarding 
> multiple copies of EFF and similar material which is minimaly related
> to cyrypto and most users actively look for it. I doubt a lot of the 
> users here check out sci.math, sci.chaos, sci.neural-nets, etc. 

	[1] THe EFF forads were VERY crypto related (HR 3627), we just 
got sick of seeing 4 copies of the same article pop up.
	[2] DO you know that no-one here reads those groups? I don't, but 
considering the number of intelligent and varied people here, that's a 
dangerous assumption.

> If we are really going to continue this thread then a serious discussion
> relating to c-punks and some form of submission standard needs to be agreed
> upon. 

	Agreed.
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