1994-07-01 - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again)
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From: Roger Bryner <bryner@atlas.chem.utah.edu>
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From: Roger Bryner <bryner@atlas.chem.utah.edu>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 94 11:54:19 PDT
Subject: Re: Devil's Advocate (again)
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On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Duncan Frissell wrote:
> Additionally, since properly executed crypto can only be breached by the
> application of torture to the key holder, The VIIIth Amendment's
> prohibition of cruel and unusual punishment may apply.
This is not even slightly true. They can say that if you don't show them
your tax status, they sieze everyting you have. This would require some
random key. This dosn't involve tourture, just tax.
Roger.
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- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 05:49:48 PDT) - Devil’s Advocate (again) - Anonymous User <nobody@soda.berkeley.edu>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 06:04:15 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@imsi.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:27:48 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:49:41 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Adam Shostack <adam@bwh.harvard.edu>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 11:15:45 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Jim choate <ravage@bga.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 11:53:31 PDT) - Devil’s Advocate (again) - pstemari@bismark.cbis.com (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:59:51 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:45:31 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Michael Handler <grendel@netaxs.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:24:25 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Jim choate <ravage@bga.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:30:37 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 11:53:31 PDT) - Devil’s Advocate (again) - pstemari@bismark.cbis.com (Paul J. Ste. Marie)
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:37:12 PDT) - Physical storage of key is the weakest link - tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:01:09 PDT) - Re: Physical storage of key is the weakest link - Andrew Purshottam <andy@autodesk.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:27:37 PDT) - Re: Physical storage of key is the weakest link - tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:48:09 PDT) - Re: Physical storage of key is the weakest link - Andrew Purshottam <andy@autodesk.com>
- 1994-07-02 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 18:30:23 PDT) - Re: Physical storage of key is the weakest link - Hal <hfinney@shell.portal.com>
- 1994-07-02 (Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:27:19 PDT) - Re: Physical storage of key is the weakest link - roy@sendai.cybrspc.mn.org (Roy M. Silvernail)
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:27:37 PDT) - Re: Physical storage of key is the weakest link - tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:01:09 PDT) - Re: Physical storage of key is the weakest link - Andrew Purshottam <andy@autodesk.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 11:15:45 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Jim choate <ravage@bga.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:51:27 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Jim choate <ravage@bga.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 11:54:19 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Roger Bryner <bryner@atlas.chem.utah.edu>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:41:00 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:49:41 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Adam Shostack <adam@bwh.harvard.edu>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:27:48 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Duncan Frissell <frissell@panix.com>
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:38:22 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>
- 1994-07-03 (Sun, 3 Jul 94 08:50:27 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - rarachel@prism.poly.edu (Arsen Ray Arachelian)
- 1994-07-01 (Fri, 1 Jul 94 06:04:15 PDT) - Re: Devil’s Advocate (again) - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@imsi.com>