1994-08-06 - Latency vs. Reordering (Was: Remailer ideas (Was: Re: Latency vs. Reordering))
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From: hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1994-08-06 03:36:16 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:36:16 PDT
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From: hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:36:16 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Latency vs. Reordering (Was: Remailer ideas (Was: Re: Latency vs. Reordering))
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Back to the start, I guess.
> Specifically cryptographic elements are easily added to the system
> * packets can be delayed for random intervals
Let me repeat:
REORDERING IS OF PRIMARY IMPORTANCE FOR REMAILER SECURITY.
ADDING LATENCY IS NOT.
And I don't want to hear any excuses that you can say latency and mean
reordering, because that's self-delusion. Not only is it false, but
misleading. Reordering is necessary for security, and latency is a
by-product. You don't get security by adding by-products.
Eric
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- 1994-08-04 (Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:41:28 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas (Was: Re: Latency vs. Reordering) - jdd@aiki.demon.co.uk (Jim Dixon)
- 1994-08-06 (Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:36:16 PDT) - Latency vs. Reordering (Was: Remailer ideas (Was: Re: Latency vs. Reordering)) - hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)
- 1994-08-06 (Fri, 5 Aug 94 21:12:03 PDT) - Re: Latency vs. Reordering (Was: Remailer ideas… - tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
- 1994-08-06 (Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:37:35 PDT) - Remailer ideas - hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)
- 1994-08-06 (Fri, 5 Aug 94 22:11:28 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - Hal <hfinney@shell.portal.com>
- 1994-08-06 (Fri, 5 Aug 94 22:55:16 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - mccoy@io.com (Jim McCoy)
- 1994-08-06 (Sat, 6 Aug 94 16:31:20 PDT) - Remailer ideas - hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)
- 1994-08-06 (Sat, 6 Aug 94 10:24:49 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - Adam Shostack <adam@bwh.harvard.edu>
- 1994-08-06 (Sat, 6 Aug 94 16:59:46 PDT) - Remailer ideas - hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)
- 1994-08-08 (Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:40:54 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - Rick Busdiecker <rfb@lehman.com>
- 1994-08-09 (Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:15:50 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - Hal <hfinney@shell.portal.com>
- 1994-08-09 (Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:21:33 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - Rick Busdiecker <rfb@lehman.com>
- 1994-08-09 (Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:15:50 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - Hal <hfinney@shell.portal.com>
- 1994-08-06 (Fri, 5 Aug 94 22:55:16 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - mccoy@io.com (Jim McCoy)
- 1994-08-06 (Fri, 5 Aug 94 22:11:28 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas - Hal <hfinney@shell.portal.com>
- 1994-08-06 (Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:03:51 PDT) - Re: Remailer ideas (Was: Re: Latency vs. Reordering) - Spencer Mullen <cmullen@cs.oberlin.edu>
- 1994-08-06 (Sat, 6 Aug 94 10:52:48 PDT) - Common Carriers and Illicit Shipments - tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
- 1994-08-06 (Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:36:16 PDT) - Latency vs. Reordering (Was: Remailer ideas (Was: Re: Latency vs. Reordering)) - hughes@ah.com (Eric Hughes)