From: Bruce Murphy <packrat@ratbox.rattus.uwa.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:24:09 +0800
To: "Vladimir Z. Nuri" <vznuri@netcom.com>
Subject: Re: more RANTING about NSA-friendly cpunks
In-Reply-To: <199601282104.NAA10926@netcom3.netcom.com>
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In message <199601282104.NAA10926@netcom3.netcom.com>, 
  "Vladimir Z. Nuri" wrote:
> 
> >In message <199601262011.MAA17408@netcom16.netcom.com>, 
> >  "Vladimir Z. Nuri" wrote:
> >> 
> >> has anyone *tried* just ignoring the ITAR wrt crypto and seeing what 
> >> would happen? the gubbermint blindly thinks that cyberspace will 
> >> inevitably bring the wrath of four horsemen of the infocalypse, but aren't
{snip}
> >
> >Zimmerman.
>
{snip}
> Zimmermann supports my contention, as I wrote in the post. NOTHING
> happened to him. it is conceivable this same result could have
> been arrived at (government drops investigation) if he never even 
> hired a lawyer.
> 
> Zimmermann is a perfect example of what may be counterproductive
> hysteria on *our* side, toward advancing crypto. if Zimmermann
> cannot be prosecuted, and is not prosecuted, where are the ITAR "teeth"???
> 

Nod. You may have a point there...

I'll tell you what, seeing as I *can't* export cryptostuff against
ITAR, what say *you* do it. Lots of it. And if nothing happens to you,
well and good.

OTOH the cause needs a few martyrs.
--
Packrat (BSc/BE;COSO;Wombat Admin)
Nihil illegitemi carborvndvm.