1996-01-13 - Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com

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From: zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1996-01-13 02:53:31 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 18:53:31 PST

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From: zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 96 18:53:31 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
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On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, Jay Holovacs wrote:

> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 21:31:27 -0500 (EST)
> From: Jay Holovacs <holovacs@styx.ios.com>
> To: zinc <zinc@zifi.genetics.utah.edu>
> Cc: Alan Bostick <abostick@netcom.com>, cypherpunks@toad.com
> Subject: Re: Novel use of Usenet and remailers to mailbomb from luzskru@cpcnet.com
> 
> 
>  
> On Fri, 12 Jan 1996, zinc wrote:
> 
> > regarding remailer spams:
> > 
> > one way to prevent this sort of spamming is to put a cap on the number
> > of messages that can be delivered to a given address.  of course, an
> > exception will have to be made for instances of chaining so that the
> > number of messages allowed to be forwarded to another remailer is not
> > limited.  
> > 
> > i'm trying to think of a scenario where this would not be a good
> > thing.  i suppose if somone was conducting an anonymous poll their
> > address should not have a limit.
> > 
> > i'm sure there are problems with a mesg quota system, but it does seem
> > like an easy solution.
> > 
> Unrelated legitimate messages may arrive after the 'limit ' has been reached.

i realize this is an obvious problem.  although this is a weakness,
i'm not sure it would really matter.  if a person was going to be
doing something on the net they expected would generate a lot of anon
traffic they could notifiy the remailer operators.  this has other
weaknesses related to forgeries but there's only so much that can be
done...

obviously this is not going to be an easy problem to solve.

- -pjf


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