1996-01-31 - [NOISE] Re: [FACTS] Germany, or “Oh no not again”

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From: Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>
To: “Dr. Dimitri Vulis” <dlv@bwalk.dm.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1996-01-31 01:09:48 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:09:48 +0800

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From: Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:09:48 +0800
To: "Dr. Dimitri Vulis" <dlv@bwalk.dm.com>
Subject: [NOISE] Re: [FACTS] Germany, or "Oh no not again"
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On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Dr. Dimitri Vulis wrote:

> m5@dev.tivoli.com (Mike McNally) writes:
> > Thomas Roessler writes:
> >  >                      ... In particular, they are right now
> >  > *checking* whether providing internet access is a criminal
> >  > offence due to the possibility to gain access to `inciting
> >  > material' (the German word is `Volksverhetzung') via the Net.
> >
> > If so, then this humble non-lawyer would suggest to the prosecutors
> > that they go after travel agencies next, because they sell airline
> > tickets that could be used to travel to countries where offensive
> > material is available.
> 
> Isn't there something in U.S. Code about crossing state lines
> for immoral purposes?

Yeah -- the intent was to stop the undesirables from kidnapping the pure 
white wimmin. Hasn't been used for years, if not decades.
 
> (While I'm thoroughly disgusted by the German government's censorship,
> let's not forget that the U.S. is no paradigm of freedom either.)

It's about as close as you can get, though.

The US is the battleground because it has the power to impose its will on 
the rest of the world. Crypto controls in the US effectively mean crypto 
controls on common software worldwide.

-rich





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