From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:41:03 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: The Rise and Fall of Cypherpunks  WAS [Re: the Dennings]
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attila@primenet.com writes:
>         we, and I mean all of us, who contribute the bulk of the
>     "opinions" to cypherpunks gave the mainstream press the biggest
>     possible hole to run straight over us, declaring us anarchists
>     and wild-eyed fanatics. unless we as a group mend our ways, and
>     turn out intelligent reasoning for the advance of cryptography as
>     a mainstream way of life, we will be forever consigned not only to
>     the dustbin, but subject to the ridicule of both the press and the
>     government.

Ridicule is what John Gilmore and EFF deserve, and more.

>         None of us are above a little sarcasm --but let's get the
>     vituperative effluent out of the system.  do whatever you wish in
>     private mail, but keep the profane rantings off the list.
>
>             this goes for you, Dimitri; and "aga" too.

I suspect John Gilmore is opposed to the spread of cryptography and privacy
technology. He _opposed my efforts to template NPOs for running the anonymous
remailers, because he believes in "identity escrow" - the ability of the
remailer operators to track down and silence whoever "abuses" their network to
say things "homophobic" and otherwise politically incorrect. John Gilmore and
his pack of 'punks would rather see no crypto deployed than widely available
weak crypto with hooks that permit easy replacement by stronger crypto.
Is John Gilmore an NSA plant, an "agent provocateur"?

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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