From: Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>
Date: Wed, 6 Nov 1996 09:31:07 -0800 (PST)
To: Dave Crocker <dcrocker@brandenburg.com>
Subject: Re: Dr. Vulis is not on cypherpunks any more
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                          SANDY SANDFORT
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C'punks,

On Tue, 5 Nov 1996, Dave Crocker wrote:

> 	Actually I think that this view is at the core of the
> misunderstanding.
> 
> 	In fact, we ARE required to suffer fools.

What you mean WE, white man?  Does this "requirement" include 
John Gilmore?  Must he and his machine be held in hostage to 
the gratuitous flames of Dimitri?  I think not.

> It is a clear and acknowledged expense for an open society.
 
Clear and acknowledged by whom?  Certainly not me.  We are not
talking about Dimitri's right to speak in open society.  This is
a private list provided through the generosity of one person.
Please refrain from making arguments that tacitly assume that
toad.com is a public good or has somehow been nationalized "in
the public interest."  

I challenge those who think John's actions were intemperate or
ill-advised to make their arguments without rewriting history or 
the facts, or by making use of poorly thought out metaphors.

This IS a private list, like it or not.  Crying "censorship" or
"authoritarianism" merely because John handled this differently
than you would have, is disingenuous to say the least.


 S a n d y

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