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1996-11-04 - Re: FW: Dr. Vulis is not on cypherpunks any more [RANT]

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From: Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>
To: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Message Hash: e297f0bc42df65cf1d4c6f53b40d1f6427f2d4e4af663d3085b97d8d4c71f3aa
Message ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961104121108.122E-100000@crl.crl.com>
Reply To: <327E0677.6618@gte.net>
UTC Datetime: 1996-11-04 20:51:53 UTC
Raw Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:51:53 -0800 (PST)

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From: Sandy Sandfort <sandfort@crl.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 12:51:53 -0800 (PST)
To: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Subject: Re: FW: Dr. Vulis is not on cypherpunks any more [RANT]
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Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.961104121108.122E-100000@crl.crl.com>
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                          SANDY SANDFORT
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C'punks,

On Mon, 4 Nov 1996, Dale Thorn wrote:

> Am I missing something, or do some people just not get it?

Yes, Dale is missing something, not the other way around.

(a) What John did was NOT censorship.  Dale's sloppy choice of 
    language to the contrary notwithstanding.

(b) Nobody on this list gave up any freedom.  And we are still 
    the beneficiaries of John's largesse, not his victims.

(c) Freedom has been defended not limited.  If Dimitri or even
    a majority of Cypherpunks could overrule Johns control of
    his own resources, then there would have been a loss of
    freedom with dangerous implications for us all. 

Would Dale be so tolerant if Dimitri were loudly using abusive
language towards Dale's mother and others in her own livingroom?  
Would he accuse her of censorship if she asked Dimitri to leave?  
What would he say if she kicked Dimitri out?  Enquiring minds
want to know.


 S a n d y

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