From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 1996 20:27:32 -0800 (PST)
To: "Matthew J. Miszewski" <mjmiski@execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Ebonics
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In <3.0.32.19961221180621.006965f0@mail.execpc.com>, on 12/21/96 at 08:06 PM,
   "Matthew J. Miszewski" <mjmiski@execpc.com> said:

>Why is it that personal freedom, sometimes expressed by choice of dialect
>or language, seemingly has such arbitrary limits?  Many on the list
>complain that they are subject to too many rules, and yet, seem to chime in
>on multi-linugual issues in this way.

Matt you seem to be missing the point.

As far as I can tell no one cares how individuals or in what "language"
individuals care to speak in. It is a compleetle different issue when you are talking
about a government sponcered "second language".

As with all things the government does this is just a trial balloon for bigger and
"better" things. Tax forms in Afrolish, Voting Ballots in Afrolish, matter of fact all
government documents in Afrolish. Anti-discrimination suits & laws because a perspective
employee was turned down for a job on the basis that he  can not speak English only
Afrolish.

If you look outside the political/economic spectrum you have the issues dealing with
society as a whole.
While I could write a thesis on this here are some basic question to ask:

What are the effects of having a subset of a society with the following:

 - Speak a differnt language
 - Practice a different religion
 - Have a different work ethic
 - Have a different set of moral values
 - Have a different cultural background

How will this group fair economically?
How will this group fair politically?

What are the effects of such a group violently refusing to integrate into the society as a
whole?

What historical presedents do you have to support your views?

Historical Examples:

  - Programs against the Jews in Europe & Russia
  - Turks & Armanians
  - Greeks & Turks
  - Palistinians & Jews in Israel (20th Century)



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