From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 11:22:08 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Just another government fuckover: New crypto regulations
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"Attila T. Hun" <attila@primenet.com> writes:
> ::Yes, but the impotent "cypher punks" can't write or distribute code.
> ::They can only flame and rant and pull plugs.
>
>         Ah, dimitri, my quasi-friend, my quasi-enemy, that is the

Here you mindlessly repeat Ray Arachelian's lies. Have you no mind of your own?
Why am I your "enemy"? Why do you think you're important enough for me to give
a fuck?

>     question, is it not?  Can cypherpunks write code?  Some like to
>     argue, and still can and do write code.  Others only pontificate;
>     and others lurk for the false rush of the ephemeral or fantastical
>     power.

"Cypher punks" write stupid racist flames and postmaster complaints, not code.

>         dimitri, you've never been a lurker in your life; then why do
>     you participate in cypherpunks if they are, to a [wo]man, nothing
>     but wankers? (I guess that works for the gentle sex, too. no? <g>).
>
>         Ah, dimitri, you're secret is out. you are here to harangue!

I am not "here" - I've been unsubscribed by the head censor, cocksucker
John Gilmore at the request of Ray Arachelian and Timmy May. They're
"here" to harrass and to flame and they don't want followups from the
victims of their harrassment.

> ::>     if you do not have the balls to do it, you are not for freedom.
>
> ::If you are a "cypher punk", you are not for freedom.
>
>         No, no, no, dimitri.  Cypherpunks are absolute in their demands
>     for freedom.  Most are making the choice to demand freedom while

Freedom for whom, or from whom? I have no great despect for Abraham
"I freed who?" Lincoln, but I like the quote from him: "Those who deny
freedom to others deserve it not for themselves."

>     they play in the band and the Titanic sinks.  Shall their last song
>     be "God Bless America" or "Nearer my Lord to Thee" --it's all the

Some folks on this mailing list remind me of hardcore communists that
believe that orthodix marxism works, and everyone who tried and failed
to implement it, was perverting marx's ideas. U.S.constitution was an
instrument of class warfare.

>     same is it not?  They, and the rest of the complacent Americans,
>     will go down with the ship (as will the fighters without support).
>
>         Talk is cheap, dimitri.  Let's see a little action.

Yes, let's see some more "dissidents" unsubscribed! Let's see some more
mailbombs and postmaster complaints! Let's see punitive action in response
to speech! That's all "cypher punks" are good for.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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