From: ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)
To: Kevin.L.Prigge-2@tc.umn.edu (Kevin L Prigge)
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UTC Datetime: 1997-01-27 20:43:18 UTC
Raw Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:43:18 -0800 (PST)
From: ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:43:18 -0800 (PST)
To: Kevin.L.Prigge-2@tc.umn.edu (Kevin L Prigge)
Subject: Re: Rejection policy of the Cypherpunks mailing list
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Kevin L Prigge wrote:
> paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk said:
> > > I think both of these groups are intellectually dishonest in the
> > > extreme when it comes to telling others how this list should be
> > > run. I doubt any of them would permit the sort of disruptive
> > > behavior that goes on here to go unchallenged in salons they
> > > sponsor in their own homes or on Net lists that they themselves
> > > maintain.
> >
> > If you want to talk about intellectual dishonesty try the following:
> >
> > Imagine if you will a list, the original purpose of which was
> > to act as a free and open forum for discussion of cryptography and
> > related issues. A list which proudly proclaims in its "welcome to
> > the list" message:
> >
> > We do not seek to prevent other people from
> > speaking about their experiences or their opinions.
> >
> > Now imagine that list falling into a state of content based
> > censorship and censorship based on an unspoken but ever present
> > class structure, then ask yourself which list you know that most
> > closely matches this description, it`s a pretty revealing exercise.
>
> The exercise reveals to me that only by ignoring the first paragraph
> of your example, the part that reads "Imagine if you will a list,
> the original purpose of which was to act as a free and open forum
> for discussion of cryptography and related issues." can you make
> a claim of content based censorship. The purpose of this list was
Then why discussion of machine guns should be allowed here?
igor
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