From: Toto <toto@sk.sympatico.ca>
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:34:51 -0800 (PST)
To: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv@bwalk.dm.com>
Subject: Re: Fed's blew it this time.
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The solution to world peace?
  We KILL all of the 'violent' people.
  (Thank you. Just put my Nobel Peace Prize in the mail.)

Toto

Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
> 
> "Attila T. Hun" <attila@primenet.com> writes:
> 
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> > In <219sZD42w165w@bwalk.dm.com>, on 12/31/96
> >    at 11:59 AM, dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) said:
> >
> > ::> Timothy C. May wrote:
> > ::> >
> > ::> > Your message is the equivalent of that brain-damaged ebonite's
> > ::> > "Why can't we all just get along?"
> > ::>
> > ::> Tim,
> > ::>   Have you 'coined a phrase' here?
> > ::>   Perhaps future generations, reading of the exploits of the
> > ::>  'Ebonites', will recognize your contribution to the language.
> > ::>   Have you seen _Mars Attacks_ where Jack Nicholson, playing the
> > ::>   president, says just that?
> >
> > ::have you noticed that a lot of recent popular movies either portray
> > ::the U.S.G. as a bunch of crooks and criminals, or make fun of killing
> > ::them all (e.g. Mars Attacks). This would have been unthinkable 20
> > ::years ago.
> >
> >         20 years ago, the Vietnam protests were just dying down. the
> >     movie industry which has been one of the more vocal anti-war
> >     centers (except in making violent war movies which make money) was
> >     still somewhat respectful of the USG.
> 
> Was the media industry really anti-war, or just anti-Nixon? When Lyndon
> Johnson sent the troops to 'Nam, the media first supported him. When Nixon got
> elected, against the media's wishes, the media attacked him over everything he
> was doing, including the war, just like they attacked Reagan and Bush. I'm
> usure if Nixon had pulled out completely in '69, the media would have been
> pro-war. They're whores, like Declan McCulough.
> 
> Bombing the hell out of North Viet Nam targets was evil, but effective. But:
> compare the way USD is portrayed in _Apocalypse Now & _Deer Hunter (a
> monolythic machine servings some sinister purpose and killing the natives;
> white people are safe; the rogue gets terminated by USG itself) with the way
> it's portrayed in _Rambo and _Red Dawn (gubmint abandons the pow's*, abandons
> the locals; useless, but barely evil, and it's not clear how far up the evil
> goes) and with the way it's been portrayed in this year's movies: _Courage
> Under Fire (a bunch of criminals trying to cover up their fuckup, all the way
> to the top); _Ransom (the main villain is a NYC cop, other cops are useless;
> it's not Federales, but close enough); _Eraser ("rogue" WitSec, the cops are
> the enemies); _Professional (the top villain works for the DEA). Pop movies
> reflect the attitudes of the audience they're made for.
> 
> Dr. Grubor is a Viet Nam vet. I have great respect for him.
> 
> *) Klinton's being paid by the Indonesians to "normalize" relation with VC,
> incorporated by reference.
> 
> >         Other than the liberals who give Bubba a birthday party
> >     --probably more for their own publicity (except Barbra), most
> >     everybody is getting fed up with the government and beginning to
> >     realize the USG not only over governs, but the public is also
> >     beginning to understand the usurpation of power, and the basic
> >     unconstitutionality of the regulatory agencies.
> >
> >         Utah is as good an example as any; they have never been
> >     Fed supportive (even if it was Republican), but the church mandate
> >     is to support the government --however, they are quickly swinging
> >     to a large majority which not only does not like the Federal
> >     government, but who are also actively stating the government is
> >     illegal--  and the church is silent.
> >
> >         The other Intermountain states have been just plain independent
> >     minded, but tolerated the Feds. Not any more.  Idaho and eastern
> >     Washington are not a safe place for the Feds.  Montana makes no
> >     bones about it; Wyoming, Colorado, and New Mexico are vocal. And AZ
> >     is as pissed as they come over the MJ pronouncement "--what do you
> >     mean the Feds are telling us our vote is worthless and our States'
> >     Rights don't mean pig shit."  Nobody particularly cares about the
> >     MJ, it's the pure and simple emphasis on States' Rights and the
> >     Voters' Rights to self-determination and the 10th Amendment.
> >
> >         Analysis of California attitudes is even more revealing; the
> >     statement the DEA would pull prescription permits from doctors
> >     prescribing maryjane in AZ and CA has stirred a firestorm which
> >     will only get larger.
> 
> Is that why the criminal Usenet Cabal is interfering with the propagation
> of sci.med.cannabis and other MJ-related Usenet newsgroups?
> 
> >             The people spoke and the Feds said: "Fuck You!"
> >
> >         The question then is, how long before the Eastern whimps and
> >     liberal tit suckers wake up and realize they too are about to lose
> >     the option of being liberal tit suckers?
> >
> >         Of all things, MJ may be the last straw (going up in smoke
> >     <g>); now, if the press will get off their sensationalism on the
> >     CDA and talk about what it is we are really fighting --free speech
> >     as a whole, Thomas Jefferson might wake up one day soon and say:
> >     "Alright!  but it took you stupid bastards more than the 20 years
> >     to have a little revolution to teach Washington who the government
> >     serves!"
> 
> I have little regard for Thomas Jefferson and rest of the "founding fathers"
> gang. Their revolution replaced one bunch of oppressors with another; no
> wonder it was followed by Shay's (sp?) Rebellion (whose farmer leaders were
> sentenced to hang for treason; later commuted); and Alien and Sedition Acts.
> 
> >         Maybe Bubba needs a little more cocaine so he gets "brave"
> >     enough to call in UN troops to quell a riot...   then WE watch the
> >     fun. Some of you sissies might even lift your hardware and watch
> >     your first melon explode.  After the first one, it's easy.
> >
> >         For the first time a civilized nation has full gun
> >         registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more
> >         efficient, and the world will follow our lead in the
> >         future.
> >                     --Adolf Hitler (1935)
> >
> >     Is Adolf's future here again?
> 
> I had a great-grandfather named Adolf.  The Communists killed him.
> 
> >         46. The U.S. government declares a ban on the possession,
> >         sale, transportation, and transfer of all non-sporting
> >         firearms.  ...Consider the following statement:
> >
> >             I would fire upon U.S. citizens who refuse or resist
> >             confiscation of firearms banned by the U.S. government.
> >
> >                 --The USMC Combat Arms Survey
> >
> >     The same survey had questions of obeying commands from UN officers,
> >     and obeying commands from UN officers on US territory, and against
> >     US citizens.  Anybody who wants a copy of the whole survey, send
> >     me email.
> >
> >         This was not somebody's master thesis; on some special
> >     operations bases it was given by a major, others a light bird, etc.
> >     all SEALS and USMC spec-op groups were given the "test"  --the
> >     younger men were >85% compliant; the reuppers and lifers were real
> >     low on compliance (~15%).  Our PC and revisionist history has built
> >     the generation they want: functionally illiterate "world-oriented"
> >     cannon fodder.
> 
> How does one brainwash a brainless "cypher punk"?
> 
> ---
> 
> Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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