1997-01-17 - Re: Newt’s phone calls
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From: daw@cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
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From: daw@cs.berkeley.edu (David Wagner)
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:35:32 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Newt's phone calls
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In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970113203329.21655A-100000@cp.pathfinder.com>,
Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com> wrote:
> The only other journalist who was there made an interesting point, that
> encrypting cell phone traffic only up to the point it hits the phone
> system wouldn't hinder L.E. access but would protect privacy. (Or,
> perhaps, would be worse in the long term since we wouldn't have such
> luscious examples.)
This is well-known. GSM does this, for example. I've seen the point
made in several textbooks.
I don't know of any cellular systems that do end-to-end encryption
(which would stop wiretapping at the landline switch) as opposed to
airlink encryption. Does anyone else?
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