1997-05-31 - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy
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From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1997-05-31 20:58:34 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 04:58:34 +0800
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From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 04:58:34 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy
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Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org> writes:
> Let me also try to explain how the simple-minded
> First Amendment-privacy rights trade-off often
> misses the point about privacy claims. Consider
> the article about Judge Bork's video viewing
> habits back in 1987. Should Congress/the Courts
> prevent City Paper from publishing the article?
> Of course not. Could Congress/the Courts require
> video record stores not to disclose customer
> records without explict consent? You decide.
This law is unenforceable. If you want to rent porn videos and you have
some brains (the two may be mutually exclusive...) you'd pay cash and
make the transaction totally anonymous.
Should there also be a law against grocers keeping track of who's buying what?
---
Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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- 1997-05-31 (Sat, 31 May 1997 15:35:32 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com>
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- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:22:03 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
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- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 12:04:29 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:03:13 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - “Robert A. Costner” <pooh@efga.org>
- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:20:08 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
- 1997-06-04 (Wed, 4 Jun 1997 11:36:41 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Bill Stewart <stewarts@ix.netcom.com>
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- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 13:34:49 +0800) - Re: May’s Banal Rant - Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org>
- 1997-06-03 (Tue, 3 Jun 1997 16:00:56 +0800) - Re: May’s Banal Rant - Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>
- 1997-06-02 (Tue, 3 Jun 1997 02:38:23 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg or Berman? (was Re: e$: Beltway piglets and otherbarnyard animals) - Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
- 1997-06-03 (Wed, 4 Jun 1997 07:38:36 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg or Berman? (was Re: e$: Beltway piglets and other barnyard animals) - Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>
- 1997-06-01 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 08:46:46 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 06:49:11 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
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- 1997-06-01 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 23:07:11 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org>
- 1997-06-01 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 06:37:59 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - “Robert A. Costner” <pooh@efga.org>
- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 21:40:37 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>
- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:18:07 +0800) - Re: e$: Beltway piglets and other barnyard animals - Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:04:49 +0800) - Re: May’s Banal Rant - Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:04:39 +0800) - Re: May’s Banal Rant - Eric Murray <ericm@lne.com>
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- 1997-06-04 (Wed, 4 Jun 1997 23:06:18 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg or Berman? (was Re: e$: Beltway piglets and otherbarnyard animals) - Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
- 1997-06-01 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 10:42:05 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org>
- 1997-06-01 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 08:16:47 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org>
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 06:46:34 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
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- 1997-06-04 (Wed, 4 Jun 1997 16:17:56 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
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- 1997-06-01 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 04:20:46 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - “William H. Geiger III” <whgiii@amaranth.com>
- 1997-06-01 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 05:17:44 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
- 1997-06-01 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 03:31:13 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)
- 1997-06-03 (Tue, 3 Jun 1997 21:55:58 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org>
- 1997-06-03 (Wed, 4 Jun 1997 03:22:06 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Asgaard <asgaard@cor.sos.sll.se>
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 03:58:48 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - “William H. Geiger III” <whgiii@amaranth.com>
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:22:03 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
- 1997-05-31 (Sat, 31 May 1997 22:25:48 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - “Robert A. Costner” <pooh@efga.org>
- 1997-06-01 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 05:58:02 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - “Robert A. Costner” <pooh@efga.org>
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:38:04 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 01:27:02 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 02:33:37 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com>
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 05:01:00 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 06:13:44 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
- 1997-06-01 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 08:12:54 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
- 1997-06-01 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:41:22 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com>
- 1997-06-02 (Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:58:25 +0800) - Bell in Stir - frissell@panix.com
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 02:33:37 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com>
- 1997-05-31 (Sun, 1 Jun 1997 01:27:02 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
- 1997-05-31 (Sat, 31 May 1997 15:35:32 +0800) - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy - Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com>