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1997-06-01 - Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy

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From: “William H. Geiger III” <whgiii@amaranth.com>
To: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org>
Message Hash: 260118986912e06c0d3c428ae221f1b23f650154fa3d3d7556cc0192c39f0574
Message ID: <199706010504.AAA29828@mailhub.amaranth.com>
Reply To: <v03007800afb68a25627d@[205.177.146.237]>
UTC Datetime: 1997-06-01 05:22:00 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:22:00 +0800

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From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 13:22:00 +0800
To: Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org>
Subject: Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy
In-Reply-To: <v03007800afb68a25627d@[205.177.146.237]>
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In <v03007800afb68a25627d@[205.177.146.237]>, on 05/31/97 
   at 10:27 PM, Marc Rotenberg <rotenberg@epic.org> said:

>>At 6:05 PM -0700 5/31/97, Marc Rotenberg wrote:
>>
>>>What examples do you have where privacy is included in
>>>a contractual arrangement?
>>
>>
>>- a lender agrees to transfer the information provided only to specified
>>parties, and not to the newspapers . . .

>Good examples. Many are codified in statue, created by common law,
>industry practice, or professional obligation. Virtually none are tied to
>specific, negotiated contracts.

>One of the biggest problems with libertarian theories is that they are
>descriptively flawed as applied in the real world. In practice, perfect
>markets rarely exist, laws do protect rights, and there are a lot of
>efficiencies -- economic, technological, and otherwise -- in promoting
>the highest level of safeguards across similar activities, e.g. you get
>into a car, you expect that the brakes will work. You don't express a
>negotiated preference for how much you want your brakes to work.

Marc you really need to pick better examples for making your point. :)

Not only is government regulation unnecesary to insure passenger safty in
automobiles I can site what happend with Tucker as a prime example of how
government power was used to prevent the free market from bringing safty
inovations to the general public.

The biggest problem with libertarian ideals is that the never get
implemented before some statest jumps in with their own power grab
"solution" to the problem.

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