From: Lucky Green <shamrock@netcom.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 1997 07:38:06 +0800
To: "Paul H. Merrill" <paulmerrill@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Hack the Mars rover
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Just to clear up any confusion: I don't advocate interfering with the 
Mars probe in any way. As always, my interest in purely academic.


-- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred

On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Paul H. Merrill wrote:

> Lucky Green wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, the idea was to take over the rover. A DoS would be an extremely
> > idiotic thing to do. Of course so would be damaging the rover. But a
> > little cruise... :-)
> > 
> > -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred
> 
> I hate to be the one to tell you this, but taking someone's toy away --
> even just for awhile -- IS Denial of Service.  And, yes, 'twould be a
> Blast to go joyriding.
> 
> PHM
> > 
> > On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Ryan Anderson wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 7 Jul 1997, Paul H. Merrill wrote:
> > >
> > > > The appropriate question is how much encryption (and other security) is
> > > > needed if interrupting the traffic causes the loss of a great deal of
> > > > money and difficult (if possible at all) fixes.  This is the mindset of
> > > > the Fed security wienies when specifying and designing; thus it must be
> > > > the mindset of the non-Fed Wienie looking to crack.
> > >
> > > Well, if it matters any, my initial impression was that this discussion
> > > was based upon taking over the rover, not necessarily upon just performing
> > > a DoS attack on it.  Frankly, I can't see a point to a DoS attack...
> > > taking it over, on the other hand could be fun..
> > >
> > > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Ryan Anderson - <Pug Majere>     "Who knows, even the horse might sing"
> > > Wayne State University - CULMA   "May you live in interesting times.."
> > > randerso@ece.eng.wayne.edu                        Ohio = VYI of the USA
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> > >
> > >
> 
> -- 
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Paul H. Merrill                Merlyn Enterprises
> paulmerrill@acm.org
> I have no opinions (just facts)
>     so it doesn't matter what my employer thinks.
>