From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
To: Joichi Ito <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
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UTC Datetime: 1997-11-19 05:27:12 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:27:12 +0800
From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:27:12 +0800
To: Joichi Ito <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: Exporting crypto from Japan
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At 4:43 PM -0700 11/16/97, Joichi Ito wrote:
>who also have domestic political strength. Also, I looked into the "Chobetsu"
>that you refered to in a previous message and I think you are refering to the
>"Naikaku Chosashitsu Betsushitsu" which is the group that engages in the often
>rather shady "super-legal" actions like stamping out political parties and
>going after cults. I don't think they have any direct involvement in the
>current
>RSA issue and I wouldn't call them "Japan's NSA." They are more like some
>kind of secret police. (I can already image the kind of messages I'm going to
>receive on this list for engaging with you at this level of dialog, but for
...
As I said earlier, Richelson's comprehensive study of foreign intelligence
agencies describes it as Chobetsu, as does Hersh. Perhaps there is an issue
of transliteration here?
I found one of my Web page bookmarks, http://www.onestep.com/milnet/iagency.htm
and it lists various SIGINT agencies. As these may be of interest to
others, I will include the full list below, including the description of
Chobetsu:
Principle SIGINT Collection Organizations
Mnemonic Service Name Branch
Country
AFMBW Amt Fur Frenmeldwesen Branch of the West
Bundeswehr (Office for Bundeswher Germany
Radio Monitoring)
AMAN Agaf Modiin (Intelligence Intelligence Corps, Israel
Branch of Israeli Defense SIGINT
Forces)
Chobetsu Ground Self-Defense Forces Investigation Japan
Division,
Second Section,
Annex Chamber
CSE Communications Security Under the Department Canada
Establishment of Defense
DGSE Direction Generale de Information France
la Securite Exterieure Directorate,
Technical Means
Branch, and
Evaluations,
Prospectives,
Orientation Branch
GCHQ General Communications Directorate of UK
Headquarters SIGINT Operations
GCR Groupement de Communications - France
(Radio-Electric
Communications Group)
HSR Hlavni Sprava Rozvedky Directorate D Czecho.
(Main Directorate of the Third Department
General Staff)
NSA National Security Agency Office of SIGINT US
(P Group), Analysis
of SIGINT
SIOS Secondo Reparto (Second Under each of Navy Italy
Department Army, and Air Force
Intelligence
SISMI Servizio perle Informazioni ? Italy
e la Sicurezza Militaire
(Service for Information and
Military Security)
TD Technical Department ? China
The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography
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