From: David Honig <honig@sprynet.com>
To: mgraffam@mhv.net
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UTC Datetime: 1998-08-06 17:31:55 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: David Honig <honig@sprynet.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 10:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: mgraffam@mhv.net
Subject: Re: Noise source processing
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At 10:31 AM 8/6/98 -0400, mgraffam@mhv.net wrote:
>On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, David Honig wrote:
>
>> I have digitized FM radio hiss using a $10 transistor radio feeding
>> into the LINE in of my soundcard. The spectrum looks poisson
>> with prominant, periodically spaced noise spikes. It does not pass
Diehard.
>
>Yeah, I ran Diehard on it .. and that is why I wanted to find some
>references on removing bias.
>
>> But if you take the PARITY of 8 bits to get one bit, then assemble bytes
>> out of these bits, the results pass Diehard.
>
>This is a neat idea. I smiled when I read this in RFC1750
>
>> 1. There are some nice spectrogramming shareware programs out there.
>
>I haven't been able to find any for UNIX/X .. any recommendations
>for Win31 (I'll try it with Wabi ;) software?
>
You should probably look for native freeware, no?
Otherwise look in various win archives.
I have not yet done systematic experiments looking at, e.g., entropy in
less-than
full-amplitude noise, or intentionally filtering out various pieces
of spectrum. The tables in RFC 1750 show that 8 bits is reasonable.
Interestingly, the parity of a $10 10year old Radio shack monophonic
FM radio, UNSHIELDED, in a digitally-noisy environment, sampled
at 44Khz and 16 bits, passed Diehard.
NB: Consumer computainment devices will include FM/TV receivers very shortly.
Less of a rat's nest in back of the machine.
I always thought listening to static was a suspicious activity.
A CDROM burner is $350. "Entropy. Its not just for ambassadors anymore."
honig@alum.mit.edu
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