1994-12-16 - Re: McCoy is Right! New Mail Format to Start Now.

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From: Jonathon Fletcher <jonathon@izanagi.sbi.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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Reply To: <199412152012.MAA28503@netcom2.netcom.com>
UTC Datetime: 1994-12-16 01:32:17 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:32:17 PST

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From: Jonathon Fletcher <jonathon@izanagi.sbi.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 94 17:32:17 PST
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: McCoy is Right! New Mail Format to Start Now.
In-Reply-To: <199412152012.MAA28503@netcom2.netcom.com>
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On Thu, 15 Dec 1994, Timothy C. May wrote:
> I see two "stable attractors" for text/graphics/multimedia/etc. sent
> over the Net:
> 1. Straight text, ASCII, 80 column format. All systems can handle
> this, all mailers and newsreaders can handle it, it's what the Usenet
> is essentially based upon, and it gets the job done. It meets the
> needs of 95% of us for 95% of our needs.
> 2. The Web, for graphics, images, etc. This will be the next main
> stable attractor, deployed on many platforms. (I'm assuming the debate
> here about Netscape standards does not imply much of a fragmentation,
> that Mosaic, Netscape, MacWeb, etc., will all basically be able to
> display Web pages in much the same way.)

Okay, I'll go with that. I'd just like to point out that http (transport 
for documents serverd on the web) uses mime. That's how your browser 
knows something is html, or a picture of some format, or postscript. 

find a web server (pick one) and telnet to it:

% telnet my.web.server 80

enter the following line and press return *twice*

(you need the second line because the server is expecting a mime header 
from you - ended by a blank line).

You'll get some answer like:
HTTP/1.0 200 OK
Date: Friday, 16-Dec-94 01:09:44 GMT
Server: NCSA/1.3
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/html
Last-modified: Tuesday, 06-Dec-94 06:10:37 GMT
Content-length: 1067

That's the server's answer to your query - one mime header (the http HEAD 
request asks for info about a document).

If you have a mailer that doesn't automagically verify signatures and 
pack and unpack pgp messages it's a pain (I know tim will agree with 
this). If you have a mailer that can't pack and unpack mime then it's a 
pain too. Just because your mailer doesn't support it doesn't mean that mime 
(or email privacy !) is a bad thing.


PS: for those with macs or pcs or unix machines don't have mime. please 
take a look at mpack - might find it usefull.


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