From: Nesta Stubbs <nesta@wwa.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 95 13:17:57 PDT
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: PRZ encrypted voice software release imminent
In-Reply-To: <199508111759.KAA05515@netcom8.netcom.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.950811151053.2010A-100000@ts07.neiu.bgu.edu>
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On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote:

> the real holy grail for voice communication encryption is
> when this stuff starts to get integrated into the real 
> phone system, or people start making hardware that is
> cheap and self contained and idiot proof. "but it's difficult
> to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious" <g>
>
This can be done with hacked telephones probably.  A switch in the 
telphones that then takes the line over turning it into a data connection 
and negotiating keys etc.. with the remote side which would have a 
similiarly equipped telephone.  It may already be done, but rather 
prohibitevly expensive for common use.
 
> this is an extremely useful model: "big fish provider" gives
> a capability that people want, namely processing time and
> disk space. they think they can regulate the uses of their
> system, but if there is enough degrees of freedom, they 
> cannot, and people can actually simulate the services they
> want on the system regardless of what the system operators
> wish to control or not control.
>
not true really, most providers shut off accounts that run SLIRP if they 
also offer SLip/PPP service to customers. I know MCSnet did.  but 
SLIP/PPP was only five dollars more a month and offered much better 
performance.
 

"I regret that I have but six orifices to give you" -Nesta Stubbs
/-/ a s t e  http://www.mcs.net/~nesta/home.html Angeli Caduti Assasin


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