1996-06-07 - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site?

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From: nelson@crynwr.com
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1996-06-07 12:51:46 UTC
Raw Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:51:46 +0800

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From: nelson@crynwr.com
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:51:46 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Multiple Remailers at a site?
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Scott Brickner writes:
 > nelson@crynwr.com writes:
 > >Scott Brickner writes:
 > > > If the remailer does a good job with the delays and shuffling, then
 > > > it becomes difficult for the analyst to match message a with
 > > > message b, leaving him with what he already knew (that A and
 > > > RemailerX have a common interest, as to B and RemailerX, but the
 > > > interests may be wholly unrelated).
 > >
 > >Nope.  Not if each of them runs a remailer.  That's why mixmaster is
 > >SO WONDERFUL.
 > 
 > The "to" and "from" values that the traffic analyst will be using
 > are the IP addresses in the packets.  It doesn't matter whether
 > mixmaster, cypherpunks, or penet remailers are used, they still use
 > IP addresses.

Sure *does* matter.  There's no computationally feasible way to
associate one mixmaster message with another.  The only way you can
get a clue is by analyzing who sends mail into and out of the
mixmaster system.  If both of your endpoints are within the mixmaster
system, you have no entering or exiting mail to analyze.  It doesn't
matter if the mixmaster remailers are on the same or different systems.

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>    http://www.crynwr.com/~nelson
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