nelson@crynwr.com (33 posts)

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signing && emacs?

• 1996-03-25 (Tue, 26 Mar 1996 04:58:10 +0800) - signing && emacs? - nelson@crynwr.com

Re: DESCRIBE

• 1996-03-26 (Wed, 27 Mar 1996 03:40:02 +0800) - Re: DESCRIBE - kermie@paonline.com (Dan Ringley)
  • 1996-03-26 (Wed, 27 Mar 1996 03:52:51 +0800) - Re: DESCRIBE - nelson@crynwr.com
  • 1996-03-27 (Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:09:45 +0800) - Re: DESCRIBE - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>
  • 1996-03-28 (Fri, 29 Mar 1996 07:58:36 +0800) - Re: DESCRIBE - Charles Bell <quester@eskimo.com>

About Triple DES ……

• 1996-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:48:46 +0800) - About Triple DES …… - Victor Ramon Aguilar Ocampo <aguilar@servidor.dgsca.unam.mx>
  • 1996-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:22:17 +0800) - Re: About Triple DES …… - Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>
  • 1996-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:22:37 +0800) - Re: About Triple DES …… - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>
  • 1996-03-28 (Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:03:42 +0800) - Re: About Triple DES …… - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-03-28 (Thu, 28 Mar 1996 11:47:19 +0800) - Re: About Triple DES …… - Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>
      • 1996-03-27 (Wed, 27 Mar 1996 22:55:11 +0800) - Re: About Triple DES …… - Mutant Rob <wlkngowl@unix.asb.com>

Re: Remailer in a box

• 1996-05-10 (Sat, 11 May 1996 02:33:29 +0800) - Re: Remailer in a box - “E. ALLEN SMITH” <EALLENSMITH@ocelot.Rutgers.EDU>
  • 1996-05-10 (Sat, 11 May 1996 05:54:54 +0800) - Re: Remailer in a box - nelson@crynwr.com
  • 1996-05-11 (Sat, 11 May 1996 10:49:23 +0800) - Re: Remailer in a box - Lance Cottrell <loki@obscura.com>

The problem with encryption, period.

• 1996-06-04 (Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:03:08 +0800) - The problem with encryption, period. - nelson@crynwr.com

Where are the cryptographers going to come from?

• 1996-06-04 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 07:43:12 +0800) - Where are the cryptographers going to come from? - nelson@crynwr.com

Re: Multiple Remailers at a site?

• 1996-06-02 (Sun, 2 Jun 1996 17:50:16 +0800) - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site? - Bill Stewart <stewarts@ix.netcom.com>
  • 1996-06-05 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:02:34 +0800) - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site? - Scott Brickner <sjb@universe.digex.net>
  • 1996-06-05 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:25:36 +0800) - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site? - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:34:11 +0800) - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site? - Scott Brickner <sjb@universe.digex.net>
    • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:29:57 +0800) - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site? - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:06:22 +0800) - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site? - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:51:46 +0800) - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site? - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-07 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:36:37 +0800) - Re: Multiple Remailers at a site? - nelson@crynwr.com

Markoff in NYT on NTT/RSA chip

• 1996-06-04 (Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:42:37 +0800) - Markoff in NYT on NTT/RSA chip - Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
  • 1996-06-05 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:14:59 +0800) - Re: Markoff in NYT on NTT/RSA chip - Paul Robichaux <paul@ljl.COM>
    • 1996-06-05 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:09:11 +0800) - Re: Markoff in NYT on NTT/RSA chip - jonathon <grafolog@netcom.com>
    • 1996-06-05 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 00:43:49 +0800) - Re: Markoff in NYT on NTT/RSA chip - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:56:30 +0800) - Re: Markoff in NYT on NTT/RSA chip - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:27:20 +0800) - Re: Markoff in NYT on NTT/RSA chip - David Lesher <wb8foz@nrk.com>

Re: Java

• 1996-06-04 (Tue, 4 Jun 1996 17:47:31 +0800) - Re: Java - frantz@netcom.com (Bill Frantz)
  • 1996-06-04 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 03:30:20 +0800) - Re: Java - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>
    • 1996-06-05 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:43:59 +0800) - Re: Java - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
      • 1996-06-05 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:17:33 +0800) - Re: Java - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>
        • 1996-06-18 (Tue, 18 Jun 1996 14:39:47 +0800) - [Noise] Re: Java - s1113645@tesla.cc.uottawa.ca
          • 1996-06-18 (Tue, 18 Jun 1996 18:33:00 +0800) - Re: [Noise] Re: Java - Simon Spero <ses@tipper.oit.unc.edu>
    • 1996-06-05 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 04:12:01 +0800) - Re: Java - Raph Levien <raph@cs.berkeley.edu>
      • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:38:04 +0800) - Re: Java - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
    • 1996-06-05 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 04:46:49 +0800) - Re: Java - nelson@crynwr.com
  • 1996-06-05 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:09:29 +0800) - C++ - Wei Dai <weidai@eskimo.com>

On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing”

• 1996-06-05 (Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:12:03 +0800) - On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
  • 1996-06-05 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 00:44:55 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - Jeffrey A Nimmo <janimmo@ionet.net>
    • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 09:01:44 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - Mike McNally <m5@vail.tivoli.com>
    • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:21:11 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:30:38 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - “Bruce M.” <brucem@wichita.fn.net>
    • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:05:11 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
      • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:28:41 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - Jeffrey A Nimmo <janimmo@ionet.net>
        • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:40:07 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - “Declan B. McCullagh” <declan+@CMU.EDU>
        • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 23:05:59 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - “Declan B. McCullagh” <declan+@CMU.EDU>
    • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:34:54 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - “Declan B. McCullagh” <declan+@CMU.EDU>
  • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:49:42 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - “Bruce M.” <brucem@wichita.fn.net>
    • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:37:05 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - Intense <exalt@miworld.net>
    • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:57:15 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - Intense <exalt@miworld.net>
  • 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:21:21 +0800) - Re: On the Hill: Child Porn “Morphing” - mpd@netcom.com (Mike Duvos)

Electronic Signatures

• 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:49:17 +0800) - Electronic Signatures - nCognito@rigel.cyberpass.net (Anonymous)
  • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:37:22 +0800) - Electronic Signatures - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-07 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 03:23:45 +0800) - Re: Electronic Signatures - Michael Froomkin <froomkin@law.miami.edu>
    • 1996-06-07 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 03:52:37 +0800) - Re: Electronic Signatures - nelson@crynwr.com
      • 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 12:09:39 +0800) - Re: Electronic Signatures - Asgaard <asgaard@sos.sll.se>
      • 1996-06-09 (Sun, 9 Jun 1996 08:04:15 +0800) - Re: Electronic Signatures - nCognito@rigel.cyberpass.net (Anonymous)

Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS

• 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:44:11 +0800) - Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS - jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
  • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:19:17 +0800) - Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS - nelson@crynwr.com

Internet solution for law enforcement

• 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 12:29:39 +0800) - Internet solution for law enforcement - caal@hopf.dnai.com
  • 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:31:54 +0800) - Internet solution for law enforcement - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 15:54:30 +0800) - Re: Internet solution for law enforcement - “Dave Emery” <die@pig.die.com>
  • 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 16:30:22 +0800) - Re: Internet solution for law enforcement - Rich Graves <llurch@networking.stanford.edu>
    • 1996-06-08 (Sun, 9 Jun 1996 05:57:57 +0800) - Re: Internet solution for law enforcement - Alan Horowitz <alanh@infi.net>
    • 1996-06-11 (Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:10:31 +0800) - Re: Internet solution for law enforcement - snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>

Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS

• 1996-06-07 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 07:56:48 +0800) - Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS - jim bell <jimbell@pacifier.com>
  • 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 11:28:19 +0800) - Re: FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS - nelson@crynwr.com

mailing-list through a remailer

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  • 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 15:33:09 +0800) - mailing-list through a remailer - nelson@crynwr.com

Micropayments: myth?

• 1996-06-06 (Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:12:13 +0800) - Micropayments: myth? - szabo@netcom.com (Nick Szabo)
  • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:25:29 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
    • 1996-06-07 (Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:36:52 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Jeff Barber <jeffb@sware.com>
      • 1996-06-07 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 04:28:35 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Bryce <wilcoxb@nagtje.cs.colorado.edu>
      • 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:38:08 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
        • 1996-06-08 (Sat, 8 Jun 1996 23:58:03 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Einar Stefferud <Stef=buyinfo@nma.com>
  • 1996-06-08 (Sun, 9 Jun 1996 03:37:58 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Hal Varian <hal@alfred.sims.berkeley.edu>
  • 1996-06-11 (Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:56:31 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Brian Behlendorf <brian@organic.com>
    • 1996-06-20 (Thu, 20 Jun 1996 11:47:56 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Einar Stefferud <Stef@nma.com>
      • 1996-06-21 (Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:07:14 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
        • 1996-06-21 (Fri, 21 Jun 1996 10:27:46 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Paul Rarey <Paul.Rarey@Clorox.com>
        • 1996-06-21 (Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:24:56 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Einar Stefferud <Stef@nma.com>
          • 1996-06-21 (Fri, 21 Jun 1996 13:54:05 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
            • 1996-06-21 (Fri, 21 Jun 1996 11:33:39 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - Darren New <dnew@yuan.fv.com>
      • 1996-06-23 (Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:23:12 +0800) - Re: Micropayments: myth? - szabo@netcom.com (Nick Szabo)
  • 1996-06-12 (Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:05:18 +0800) - Micropayments are Crap - “Stephan Vladimir Bugaj” <stephan@studioarchetype.com>
    • 1996-06-12 (Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:06:12 +0800) - Re: Micropayments are Crap - “Stephan Vladimir Bugaj” <stephan@studioarchetype.com>
      • 1996-06-13 (Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:05:14 +0800) - Re: Micropayments are Crap - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
      • 1996-06-18 (Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:08:54 +0800) - Re: Micropayments are Crap - “Stephan Vladimir Bugaj” <stephan@studioarchetype.com>
        • 1996-06-18 (Tue, 18 Jun 1996 11:43:04 +0800) - Re: Micropayments are Crap - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
    • 1996-06-12 (Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:24:40 +0800) - Re: Micropayments are Crap - “Vladimir Z. Nuri” <vznuri@netcom.com>
    • 1996-06-12 (Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:32:58 +0800) - Re: Micropayments are Crap - Simon Spero <ses@tipper.oit.unc.edu>
      • 1996-06-12 (Thu, 13 Jun 1996 04:39:09 +0800) - Re: Micropayments are Crap - bryce@digicash.com
  • 1996-06-12 (Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:50:02 +0800) - Micropayments are Crap - nelson@crynwr.com

Re:

• 1996-06-14 (Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:42:06 +0800) - Re: - Blake Wehlage <jwilk@iglou.com>
  • 1996-06-15 (Sat, 15 Jun 1996 10:15:17 +0800) - Re: - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-15 (Sat, 15 Jun 1996 18:44:07 +0800) - Re: - snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>

Re: Insults (was: PBS show)

• 1996-06-13 (Thu, 13 Jun 1996 19:51:43 +0800) - Re: Insults (was: PBS show) - frantz@netcom.com (Bill Frantz)
  • 1996-06-13 (Fri, 14 Jun 1996 06:51:28 +0800) - Re: Insults (was: PBS show) - Simon Spero <ses@tipper.oit.unc.edu>
    • 1996-06-14 (Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:28:59 +0800) - Re: Insults (was: PBS show) - jonathon <grafolog@netcom.com>
      • 1996-06-15 (Sat, 15 Jun 1996 10:21:50 +0800) - [Off-topic] Re: Insults (was: PBS show) - Derek Bell <dbell@maths.tcd.ie>
      • 1996-06-15 (Sun, 16 Jun 1996 00:18:40 +0800) - [Slightly less Off-topic] Re: Insults (was: PBS show) - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-14 (Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:30:35 +0800) - Re: Insults (was: PBS show) - snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>

Re: [noise] (was Re: PBS show)

• 1996-06-16 (Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:01:55 +0800) - Re: [noise] (was Re: PBS show) - AwakenToMe@aol.com
  • 1996-06-16 (Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:35:42 +0800) - Re: [noise] (was Re: PBS show) - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>
  • 1996-06-16 (Mon, 17 Jun 1996 00:13:54 +0800) - Re: [noise] (was Re: PBS show) - nelson@crynwr.com
  • 1996-06-16 (Mon, 17 Jun 1996 03:16:06 +0800) - Re: [noise] (was Re: PBS show) - Mike McNally <m5@vail.tivoli.com>

Cash Is Dying

• 1996-06-15 (Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:12:26 +0800) - Cash Is Dying - jya@pipeline.com (John Young)
  • 1996-06-22 (Sat, 22 Jun 1996 10:58:02 +0800) - Re: Cash Is Dying - Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
    • 1996-06-22 (Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:22:44 +0800) - Re: Cash Is Dying - Michael Froomkin <froomkin@law.miami.edu>
      • 1996-06-22 (Sat, 22 Jun 1996 18:11:53 +0800) - Re: Cash Is Dying - Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
  • 1996-06-22 (Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:20:26 +0800) - Re: Cash Is Dying - nelson@crynwr.com
    • 1996-06-22 (Sat, 22 Jun 1996 21:36:51 +0800) - Re: Cash Is Dying - snow <snow@smoke.suba.com>

[Even More Noise]: Re: Those Evil Republicans

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  • 1996-06-25 (Tue, 25 Jun 1996 16:00:39 +0800) - [Even More Noise]: Re: Those Evil Republicans - nelson@crynwr.com

Re: domain name zapping threat by Internic

• 1996-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 1996 11:15:05 +0800) - Re: domain name zapping threat by Internic - Bill Stewart <stewarts@ix.netcom.com>
  • 1996-06-26 (Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:38:23 +0800) - Re: domain name zapping threat by Internic - roy@sendai.scytale.com (Roy M. Silvernail)
  • 1996-06-26 (Thu, 27 Jun 1996 01:08:56 +0800) - Re: domain name zapping threat by Internic - nelson@crynwr.com

Re: Alternic.net (was domain zapping)

• 1996-06-27 (Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:42:12 +0800) - Re: Alternic.net (was domain zapping) - jfricker@vertexgroup.com (John F. Fricker)
  • 1996-06-26 (Thu, 27 Jun 1996 07:48:28 +0800) - Re: Alternic.net (was domain zapping) - nelson@crynwr.com
  • 1996-06-27 (Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:08:15 +0800) - Re: Alternic.net (was domain zapping) - “Perry E. Metzger” <perry@piermont.com>

Re: CIA Fears UmpTeen InfoNukes

• 1996-06-28 (Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:38:46 +0800) - Re: CIA Fears UmpTeen InfoNukes - frantz@netcom.com (Bill Frantz)
  • 1996-06-28 (Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:15:15 +0800) - Re: CIA Fears UmpTeen InfoNukes - nelson@crynwr.com

mocking paranoia

• 1996-06-29 (Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:38:08 +0800) - mocking paranoia - nelson@crynwr.com

Open letter to the NSA

• 1996-06-29 (Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:41:52 +0800) - Open letter to the NSA - nelson@crynwr.com

Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News

• 1996-11-12 (Tue, 12 Nov 1996 09:33:47 -0800 (PST)) - Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
  • 1996-11-13 (Tue, 12 Nov 1996 19:31:23 -0800 (PST)) - Returned mail: User Unknown - Open Net Postmaster <postmaster@opennet.net.au>
  • 1996-11-13 (Wed, 13 Nov 1996 05:02:08 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
    • 1996-11-13 (Wed, 13 Nov 1996 10:40:19 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - Declan McCullagh <declan@eff.org>
      • 1996-11-13 (Wed, 13 Nov 1996 13:52:05 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
      • 1996-11-14 (Wed, 13 Nov 1996 16:51:10 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - Rich Graves <rcgraves@ix.netcom.com>
  • 1996-11-14 (Wed, 13 Nov 1996 21:05:14 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
    • 1996-11-14 (Thu, 14 Nov 1996 07:00:38 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
      • 1996-11-15 (Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:40:53 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
    • 1996-11-16 (Sat, 16 Nov 1996 09:24:46 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
      • 1996-11-16 (Sat, 16 Nov 1996 14:07:02 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - ichudov@algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)
        • 1996-11-17 (Sat, 16 Nov 1996 20:10:17 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
  • 1996-11-14 (Thu, 14 Nov 1996 07:34:04 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - nelson@crynwr.com
  • 1996-11-15 (Fri, 15 Nov 1996 07:40:46 -0800 (PST)) - Re: Censorship on cypherpunks?, from The Netly News - Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>