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1996-12-03 - Re: [NOISE]– [PHILOSOPHYPUNKS] Re: The House Rules At The Permanent Virtual Cypherpunks Party

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From: Bryce <bryce@digicash.com>
To: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Message Hash: 768154cf8534314b258440345e76c181021f3990a507ccb69b1c36c21acd7deb
Message ID: <199612031627.RAA21581@digicash.com>
Reply To: <32A3BBD6.1ECA@gte.net>
UTC Datetime: 1996-12-03 16:27:49 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 08:27:49 -0800 (PST)

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From: Bryce <bryce@digicash.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 1996 08:27:49 -0800 (PST)
To: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Subject: Re: [NOISE]-- [PHILOSOPHYPUNKS] Re: The House Rules At The Permanent Virtual Cypherpunks Party
In-Reply-To: <32A3BBD6.1ECA@gte.net>
Message-ID: <199612031627.RAA21581@digicash.com>
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> I made note to this list time and time again requesting that people not
> state the obvious - who owns what hardware and what rights they have to
> pull the plug or whatever.  I seriously doubt that even the least
> intelligent cypherpunk would misunderstand such a thing. Do you really
> believe that myself and other cypherpunks want to "seize" John's equip-
> ment, morally or otherwise?  You are correct about certain issues being
> complex, but one of the big failings of the crowd who supported Gilmore
> on this action was their failure to understand the point I've made here -
> that we *do* understand basic property rights, etc.


Ah.  Then we are in agreement here.  My "Rule" in the House
Rules etc. simply stated the obvious fact, for the benefit of 
those who need it stated, of Gilmore's sole authority over the 
physical substrate.  I vaguely recall some subscribers implying
or stating otherwise during the vanish Vulis fracas.  It would
not at all surprise me if some people disagreed with this
simple premise--  they habitually do so with regard to "public"
establishments like bars and restaurants, and it isn't much of
a stretch to start thinking of cypherpunks as a similarly
"public" institution.


Bryce




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