From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@amaranth.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 1997 06:27:23 +0800
To: Hallam-Baker <hallam@ai.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: McVeigh
In-Reply-To: <199706042113.RAA15819@muesli.ai.mit.edu>
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In <199706042113.RAA15819@muesli.ai.mit.edu>, on 06/04/97 
   at 05:13 PM, Hallam-Baker <hallam@ai.mit.edu> said:


>> Spoken like a man who thinks that if some Federal Government somewhere tries 
>> to knock buildings down with tanks and releases massive quantities of tear
>> gas 
>> (admitted by the Federales), it has absolutely no responsibility whatsoever 
>> for whatever follows.  It was just an innocent bystander.  All this after an 
>> armed assault on a private dwelling.

>Give it a rest. The people inside had already murdered several BATF
>agents. They had every opportunity to release the children and allow them
>to get to safety. They had every opportunity to surrender.

>Since you clearly intend from your earlier posts for "whatever follows"
>to mean McVeighs murder of 167 people in Oaklahoma clearly it does not.

>The US police may be incompetent and corrupt but that does not excuse the
>Oaklahoma bombing nor does it in any way lessen the responsibility of
>McVeigh and those who encouraged him.


>> I'll have to try that some time with the Jacob K. Javits Federal Office 
>> building in lower Manhatten.  I know I can count on you to defend me by
>> saying 
>> that even though I hit the place with 20 or 30 heavily-armed troopies and
>> then 
>> knocked a few walls down with tanks and filled the building with tear gas, 
>> nothing that happened there was my fault.

>If you have a duly authorised warrant from a court, the inhabitants have
>shot at people from inside the building and you give them two months to
>surrender, sure go for it.

>Only I think that the SAS is probably better experienced.


>> The Feds could have done in 1993 what they've done since (Koresh wasn't the 
>> only one who got burned there) and LEAVE PEACEFUL PEOPLE ALONE.

>yeah peacefull types whose response to a visit from the police was to lie
>in ambush and shoot at them with automatic weapons.

>So are you suggesting that the police ignore the complaints of illegal
>ownership of firearms and child abuse?


>And in any case the point is that Waco does not absolve McVeigh and the
>militias for the blame for Oaklahoma.

>	Phill


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