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1997-01-20 - Re: Dr Vulis’s crypto experiment (Re: IMDMP: SOURCE CODE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT)

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From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
To: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>
Message Hash: b38fa235b90ede983ce275abb42fbff0cd1645001281bf5705adb8595c676941
Message ID: <32E2D1E7.7DAC@gte.net>
Reply To: <199701162142.VAA06080@server.test.net>
UTC Datetime: 1997-01-20 02:01:46 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:01:46 -0800 (PST)

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From: Dale Thorn <dthorn@gte.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:01:46 -0800 (PST)
To: Adam Back <aba@dcs.ex.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Dr Vulis's crypto experiment (Re: IMDMP: SOURCE CODE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT)
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Adam Back wrote:

This was an utterly fascinating post, if y'all don't mind my saying so.
I certainly can't vouch for the details (or the theories), but whether
any of the details are deliberate experiments on Dimitri's part or not,
the totality of what has taken place would make an excellent source
for a post-graduate study.  Am I right?

I would suggest, however, if you're looking for a likely candidate for
really advanced social manipulation/experimentation, you should be
looking at the list owner(s), not the gadflys.

There's this silly theory some people have, that once in a while the
little people (the good guys?) win enough points to set the bad guys
back a ways.  Not in 20th century Amerika.  Read Carl Oglesby's
article "Paranoia As A Way Of Knowing", and think: "Paranoia As A Way
Of Knowing Who We Are."

[much text deleted below]
> It's occured to me recently that Dimitri's posts are not being read
> correctly, it is not the content which is the point, nor the
> superficial lack of crypto relevance.
> I await with interest the last phases of Dimitri's experiment, when
> the cypherpunks list becomes a moderated forum.  My suggestions for
> interesting experiments during the moderated phase are:
> I hope Dimitri's selfless efforts in furthering understanding of DoS
> attacks on mailing lists is properly acknowledged when he publishes
> his findings on completion of his experiments.  I also hope that
> Dimitri will document his recommendations for mailing list
> configuration and management in light of his experiments.

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