1997-10-01 - Re: “Show me an example of terrorists using the Internet or crypto”

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From: “William H. Geiger III” <whgiii@invweb.net>
To: alexlh@yourchoice.nl (Alex Le Heux)
Message Hash: aae3f3ad0f2e1e5c37c556c6041321ca0360c2de964134b97f54b456767a9ba9
Message ID: <199710011747.NAA21027@users.invweb.net>
Reply To: <Mutt.19971001191622.alexlh@sarah.yc>
UTC Datetime: 1997-10-01 18:28:42 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:28:42 +0800

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From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:28:42 +0800
To: alexlh@yourchoice.nl (Alex Le Heux)
Subject: Re: "Show me an example of terrorists using the Internet or crypto"
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In <Mutt.19971001191622.alexlh@sarah.yc>, on 10/01/97 
   at 07, alexlh@yourchoice.nl (Alex Le Heux) said:

>In article <34302d8d.8163438@newshost.cyberramp.net> you wrote:

>[lots of ranting deleted]

>: Banning guns because criminals might use them equates to banning
>: encryption because criminals might use it.  And if you really believe
>: that both should be banned, then perhaps you should be banned from
>: using oxygen, because criminals breath it too.

>You people just don't get it do you? A gun has one purpose: To kill. Just
>like any other tool, a gun, if it is available _will_ be used at some

>So making sure there are lots of guns around only serves to make a lot of
>people very dead. This is a Bad Thing.

>Gun control laws are not the issue. It's a matter of mentality. In
>Europe, where we have rather strict guncontrol laws, and have had them
>for a long time a decent human being will not even think of shooting
>someone else. In the US, where guns are tradition and part of the
>American way, many people would not think twice before shooting someone.
>The result of this is that the number of people getting killed by guns is
>enourmous, be they criminals, little kids, old grannies, or presidents.

>This sucks.

>We are not trying to export our stupidity, we're just trying to explain
>to you how we live. We live in a place where we don't even have to think
>about getting a gun, because the chances of us encountering a gun in the
>hands of an adversary are negligible.

>Wake up and smell the coffee, dude. If you have lots of guns around,
>you're gonna end up with lots of people getting shot.

What a crock of shit!!

Europe has been in a perpetual state of war for the past 2,000 years where
countless tens of millions of people have been slaughtered. Chances are
very high that you will face an advisatory with a gun, the fact that he
collects a paycheck from a government wont make you any less dead from his

You must be getting some good drugs over there to conjure up this fantasy
land where everyone loves one another and would never think of killing
someone because it sure as hell doesn't exist in Europe.

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