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1997-11-16 - Re: Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

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From: Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>
To: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-11-16 12:56:27 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:56:27 +0800

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From: Paul Bradley <paul@fatmans.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 20:56:27 +0800
To: Kent Crispin <kent@songbird.com>
Subject: Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
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> > At the risk of responding to a post which has a good probability of being 
> > a troll I will at least say that the above opinion may be that of several 
> > members, but the fact is the list has evolved, it never had an original 
> > defined purpose, at least not one easily put into words, and applauding 
> > murder of government agents is a part of the whole strong crypto privacy 
> > and liberty ethic.
> 
> Bullshit.  Applauding murder has nothing to do with strong crypto 
> privacy or liberty.

Yes it does, if one has a strong moral sense about things like individual 
rights and privacy, and the government attempt to deny the people these 
rights, the government have commited a great wrong, it is only to be 
expected that the natural response is to encourage their removal. I find 
it amazing how many people support the punishment of murderers and 
kidnappers in society at large, but exempt from this the particular group 
of people composing the government.

> > As for white supremacy, look elsewhere, I think you`ll 
> > find Tim`s post an example of what the developed world knows as humour, 
> > not a serious attack on any ethnic group.
> 
> Tim's post is an example of what the RACIST world knows as humor, 
> Paul.  Racism isn't an intellectual phenomenon, it is a gut 
> phenomenon.  Frequently it manifests itself in humor.

Oversensitivity, plain and simple, I find some racist jokes funny, I am 
not racist.

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