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1997-11-15 - Re: Tim May’s offensive racism (was: about RC4)

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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
To: Joichi Ito <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Message Hash: f0d4bf566cc135a5f5ad8303b490948f2977c9c2898be179080b54e020530029
Message ID: <v03102815b092a7a1a4ec@[207.167.93.63]>
Reply To: <v0310280fb092516361eb@[207.167.93.63]>
UTC Datetime: 1997-11-15 02:18:29 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 10:18:29 +0800

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From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 10:18:29 +0800
To: Joichi Ito <cypherpunks@cyberpass.net
Subject: Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
In-Reply-To: <v0310280fb092516361eb@[207.167.93.63]>
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At 6:47 PM -0700 11/14/97, Joichi Ito wrote:

>I'm sorry, but a racial remark is a racial remark. I never said it wasn't
>funny and I never said this guy didn't deserve it. But what you said
>was racist, no doubt about it, and even if they are funny, I personally
>think that racial jokes are stupid and cheap.

And where was there any mention of "race"? If a Chinese person made the
same joke about Nakatuji-san's "You send money, I send Misty" nonsense,
would this be "racist" (or "racialist," in your parlance)? How about if a
Pole made the same joke about a Ukrainian, or a Swede, or a German?


>On and by the way, I actually didn't think your message was very funny,
>and I don't see how you can argue that I shouldn't brand you a rascist
>just because you thought you were funny and the guy deserved it.
>
> - Joi

I really don't care if you found it funny or not.

--Tim May


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