From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 13:25:26 +0800
To: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Subject: Re: SPECIAL REPORT: Censorware in the Stacks
In-Reply-To: <D7D6He29w165w@bwalk.dm.com>
Message-ID: <199712230508.AAA10976@users.invweb.net>
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In <D7D6He29w165w@bwalk.dm.com>, on 12/22/97 
   at 11:26 PM, dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) said:

>berezina@qed.net (Paul Spirito) writes:

>> On Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:04:47 -0800, David Honig wrote:
>>
>> >Note that if the library in question were not arm of the State,
>> >noone would have any First Amendment claim.
>> >
>> >This is reminiscent of TM's recent (controversial) analysis of the fired
>> >county trashworker/author,
>> >and suggests a clearer example of the confusion caused by State as =
>> Employer:
>>
>> It's true that in the absence of public libraries this would not be an
>> issue; however, it is an example of the state acting as sovereign, not
>> employer. We're concerned with the right of patrons to access material, &
>> they are not state employees. The situation is analogous to a public =
>> park:
>> just because the state owns it, does that mean it can forbid, say, =
>> criticism
>> of the state in it? No, of course not, though it has broader discretion =
>> in
>> limiting the speech of public employees in the park, while on-duty.

>Why should any state be in the business of owning and running any parks?
>We pay $60/year for a family membership in an excellent private park.
>Most public parks in NYC are extremely unpleasant and dangerous places.

I find it quite amazing that anyone would live in a place where you had to
pay to see grass and trees.

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