1997-12-23 - Re: SPECIAL REPORT: Censorware in the Stacks

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From: “William H. Geiger III” <whgiii@invweb.net>
To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Message Hash: fe40c73fd6779c483e3b6c74df6a418e9af78dafbf29466342c9d7f10ac19085
Message ID: <199712230638.BAA11884@users.invweb.net>
Reply To: <v03102805b0c4e8e2decb@[207.167.93.63]>
UTC Datetime: 1997-12-23 06:46:12 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 14:46:12 +0800

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From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 14:46:12 +0800
To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Subject: Re: SPECIAL REPORT: Censorware in the Stacks
In-Reply-To: <v03102805b0c4e8e2decb@[207.167.93.63]>
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In <v03102805b0c4e8e2decb@[207.167.93.63]>, on 12/22/97 
   at 11:07 PM, Tim May <tcmay@got.net> said:

>At 9:13 PM -0700 12/22/97, Paul Spirito wrote:

>>It's true that in the absence of public libraries this would not be an
>>issue; however, it is an example of the state acting as sovereign, not
>>employer. We're concerned with the right of patrons to access material, &
>>they are not state employees. The situation is analogous to a public park:
>>just because the state owns it, does that mean it can forbid, say, criticism
>>of the state in it? No, of course not, though it has broader discretion in
>>limiting the speech of public employees in the park, while on-duty.

>Well, to move this away from First Amendment issues, for the sake of
>novelty, I know of several nearby state-owned parks (literally) which
>forbid discharge of firearms or even carrying of firearms.

>Whither the Second Amendment? (Or has it withered?)

Well I realy can't see having a bunch of yahoo's shooting off guns in a
crowded park to be a good thing. :) I guess it depends on what one means
by a "park". If we are talking a few acre's of trees and grass in a city
then one really shouldn't be using firearms unless in self defence. If we
are talking "parks" in the sq. mile size that is a different matter.

As far as carrying firearms IMNSHO there should be no restrictions as they
are blatently in violation of the 2nd Admendment.


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