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1997-12-23 - Re: SPECIAL REPORT: Censorware in the Stacks

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From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
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UTC Datetime: 1997-12-23 04:45:34 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 12:45:34 +0800

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From: dlv@bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 12:45:34 +0800
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: SPECIAL REPORT: Censorware in the Stacks
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berezina@qed.net (Paul Spirito) writes:

> On Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:04:47 -0800, David Honig wrote:
>
> >Note that if the library in question were not arm of the State,
> >noone would have any First Amendment claim.
> >
> >This is reminiscent of TM's recent (controversial) analysis of the fired
> >county trashworker/author,
> >and suggests a clearer example of the confusion caused by State as =
> Employer:
>
> It's true that in the absence of public libraries this would not be an
> issue; however, it is an example of the state acting as sovereign, not
> employer. We're concerned with the right of patrons to access material, &
> they are not state employees. The situation is analogous to a public =
> park:
> just because the state owns it, does that mean it can forbid, say, =
> criticism
> of the state in it? No, of course not, though it has broader discretion =
> in
> limiting the speech of public employees in the park, while on-duty.

Why should any state be in the business of owning and running any parks?
We pay $60/year for a family membership in an excellent private park.
Most public parks in NYC are extremely unpleasant and dangerous places.

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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
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