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1995-11-09 - Re: Exporting software doesn’t mean exporting

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From: Oliver Huf <ohuf@relay.sedat.de>
To: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks@toad.com>
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UTC Datetime: 1995-11-09 05:11:51 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:11:51 +0800

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From: Oliver Huf <ohuf@relay.sedat.de>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:11:51 +0800
To: Cypherpunks <cypherpunks@toad.com>
Subject: Re: Exporting software doesn't mean exporting
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On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Peter D. Junger wrote:

> >From Section 120.17 of the ITAR which provides:
> 
>  _Export_ means:
>  . . . .
>  (4) Disclosing (including oral or visual disclosure) or transfering
>  technical data to a foreign person, whether in the United States or
>  abroad . . . .

The ITAR is U.S.-Law. This only applies (by definition) to US-citizens
or persons in the U.S.!

I think it's a common mistake of many Americans that they believe
creating law means creating law for the whole world!


> Go read the section that I quoted again.  Where is there an exception
> for foreign persons who happen to be abroad?  

It's inherent. You simply can't apply US-law to non-US-citizens outside
the U.S.!  


oli.

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