From: Black Unicorn <unicorn@schloss.li>
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 14:00:15 +0800
To: sameer <sameer@c2.org>
Subject: Re: So, what crypto legislation (if any) is necessary? (Was List O' , shame)
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On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, sameer wrote:

> > 
> > No, in fact, I have not.
> > 
> > What are the impediments to corporate marketing of crypto where the 
> > marketing and distrubting entity is foreign?  (I honestly don't know)
> 
> 	As a US entity, Community ConneXion is marketing an
> SSL-encrypting webserver based on the Apache-SSL developed by the
> Apache Group (worldwide) and Ben Laurie (in the UK).

[Legitimate logistical obsticles deleted]

> 	It's doable. It's not trivial though.

Phew.  I thought for a moment you meant legal problems.

Yes, I concede, there are significant logistical hurdles confronting the 
multi-jurisdictional crypto project.  One assumes, however, that the 
initial capital investment will be somewhat offset by the first in market 
advantage of the position.

Further, a entirely foreign production, say for chip manufacture, would 
probably make things easier.  I had specifically contemplated hardware 
applications.  Indeed, there are problems with both, but they don't stem 
from ITAR.

> 	ITAR does help, in that if Ben decides to commercialize his
> product, we have a very convenient line which stops us from competing
> with each other. He can't sell inside the US because of RSA patents. I
> can't sell outside the US because of ITAR. ;-)
> > 
> > Granted, worldwide *personal* use of crypto availability is
> > > trivial, but not corporate.
> > 
> > Sufficently entrench personal use of crypto, and the personal/corporate 
> > use distinction ceases to exist.
> 
> 	Not if some applications don't apply to personal use.

Are you talking specific licensing provisions, or implementation.  I 
don't follow.  (Though I'm fairly sure I'm missing something obvious).

> 
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