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1998-12-08 - Re: y2k/gary north delusions

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From: “Douglas L. Peterson” <fnorky@chisp.net>
To: “William H. Geiger III” <cypherpunks@Algebra.COM>
Message Hash: 6053a83fe3dbe0eef5a012b7b5ac16b9b510bed9829c777465d1b50652173466
Message ID: <366CAFEE.583BC1DE@chisp.net>
Reply To: <199812062023.PAA001.79@whgiii>
UTC Datetime: 1998-12-08 04:20:04 UTC
Raw Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:20:04 +0800

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From: "Douglas L. Peterson" <fnorky@chisp.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1998 12:20:04 +0800
To: "William H. Geiger III" <cypherpunks@Algebra.COM>
Subject: Re: y2k/gary north delusions
In-Reply-To: <199812062023.PAA001.79@whgiii>
Message-ID: <366CAFEE.583BC1DE@chisp.net>
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William H. Geiger III wrote:
> 
> In <366A26C2.30D6892E@nyu.edu>, on 12/06/98
>    at 01:40 AM, Michael Hohensee <mah248@nyu.edu> said:
> 
> >William H. Geiger III wrote:
> >>
> >> In <36694C23.B4CB9509@nyu.edu>, on 12/05/98
> >>    at 10:07 AM, Michael Hohensee <mah248@nyu.edu> said:
> >>
> >> >Then we're back to doing it in the open.  Less concentrated cities might
> >> >last a while longer, but not much longer.  There's no getting around it,
> >> >we *need* working sewer systems to have modern cities.  Otherwise, the
> >> >cities die.
> >>
> >> And you say this as if it is a bad thing.
> >>
> 
> >Well it is, sorta.  I've got the misfortune to live in NYC, as do many
> >many many other people.  People who (like me) aren't particularly
> >interested in dying of disease and/or starvation.  If the "shit hits the
> >fan", we're in for a serious mess, in any event. :/
> 
> It is your choice to live in the cesspool know as NYC. I am originally
> from Chicago, I got the hell out of there the 1st chance I got and have
> never looked back.

I've been to Chicago exactly once.  I went to the Sears Tower,
and with the exception of the lake, *ALL* I could see was city
and smog!  I will not go back.


> Large metropolitan complexes are obsolete and their problems greatly
> outweigh their benefits. I am a land owner and *like* owning land, I enjoy
> having grass and trees, streams to fish and swim in, not living in a cage
> with my neighbors on the other side of a paper thin wall. I have enough
> land that I could plow it up and do subsistence farming to survive if the
> collapse ever comes (subsidized with fishing and hunting).

My "cage" is in the suburbs, but I have to agree, it is still
a cage.  I can't wait to get my own land.

> Why anyone would want to live like a rat is beyond me.

Some people are born and raised that way.  They don't know 
anything else.  And what they don't know, scares them.

-Doug
www.TheServerFarm.net

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