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1997-01-06 - Re: Sandy and I will run a cypherpunks “moderation” experiment inJan

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From: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Message Hash: eaa17b7d0ae754127997bd3c9c48c4311ef8b40eb136050030252725be5e56e6
Message ID: <v030078eeaef5fd35084d@[139.167.130.248]>
Reply To: <199701051939.LAA05342@toad.com>
UTC Datetime: 1997-01-06 01:42:23 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:42:23 -0800 (PST)

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From: Robert Hettinga <rah@shipwright.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:42:23 -0800 (PST)
To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Subject: Re: Sandy and I will run a cypherpunks "moderation" experiment inJan
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Sandy writes:

>Sounds fair
>enough to me.  What do you think?


I think temporarily moderating c-punks is a good idea. It could be that, if
we are indeed the target of a cancelable attack on usenet, all this garbage
could go away after a while (he said, wishfully). However, I think our
current problems are more a function of the size of the list itself. So,
if, in fact, the crap *doesn't* abate over time, it wouldn't be the end of
the world if the more abusive behavior here were removed mechanically --
before it went out to almost 2,000 people.

Thus, I don't think that moderating the garbage out of cypherpunks is the
functional equivalent of a neuticle installation. :-).


Measuring the effectiveness of this exercise, with the ability to peek
ocassionally into Sandy's sludge pile, keeps the whole thing honest.
Frankly, if we could figure out a way for Sandy to easily split the feed
into "cypherpunks" and "trash", that would be the best *permanent*
solution. Unfortunately, the physical mechanics of list moderation will
probably swamp poor Sandy as it is, much less the permanent addition of
forwarding the dreck somewhere else at the same time. I hope he understands
that he's about to take a shower with a firehose. For instance, it's work
enough mechanically for me to filter out the good 40% of cypherpunks, and
the 10% average of the 30 or so other lists I follow on a daily basis for
e$pam. If I were also responsible for sending the relevant contents of my
trash folder to another feed, it would probably be too much to mess with,
because I've got other stuff in there besides email list noise.

Of course, having an intellegent moderator of cypherpunks also cuts down on
the value of e$pam itself... Hmmm...

Heavy sigh. ;-).

Oh, well, it's all in the cause of a good signal...

Go for it, Sandy, and good luck!

Cheers,
Bob Hettinga

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