1997-07-19 - Re: Keepers of the keys

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From: Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com>
To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
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UTC Datetime: 1997-07-19 06:03:02 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:03:02 +0800

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From: Declan McCullagh <declan@pathfinder.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 14:03:02 +0800
To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Subject: Re: Keepers of the keys
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FYI, Joe Shea filed one of the lawsuits against the CDA, Shea v. Reno, on
his own. He refused the join the ACLU's lawsuit against the act, calling
them pro-porn or somesuch. He's calmed down a bit since then,I think. His
lawsuit was put on hold by the SupCt while Reno v. ACLU was decided,then
the lower court's decision was summarily affirmed. Ironically, Shea was
represented by the same law firm that lost the Pacifica case.

I have a PCWorld article I wrote about Shea's suit a year+ ago at:
   http://www.eff.org/pub/Publications/Declan_McCullagh/

-Declan


On Fri, 18 Jul 1997, Tim May wrote:

> [fight-censorship@vorlon.mit.edu removed, as we are getting incredible
> amounts of cross-pollution from lame posters who don't understand even the
> basics of liberty. Disgusting.]
> 
> 
> At 1:52 PM -0700 7/18/97, Colin Rafferty wrote:
> >Joe Shea (via Declan McCullagh) writes:
> >
> >> 	Declan, what would you think if the actual keepers of the keys,
> >> so to speak, were the courts, such as the Administratoive Office of the
> >> US Courts?  That would at least seem to reduce a lot of the possible
> >> privacy concerns.  One has the sense that once they get into the hands of
> >> the varius agencies, they'll get back out.
> >
> >Why do I feel like we are going around and around in circles?
> >
> >How about we give copies of our house-keys to the courts?  We should
> >also send them our old backup tapes, just in case they need them, too.
> 
> I obviously agree with Colin on this. My communications, writings, and
> diaries are *mine*.
> 
> I have no idea who this "Joe Shea" is, but he seems ignorant of basic
> concepts of life in a free society. Suggesting "better" holders of keys is
> beside the point.
> 
> Anyone who tries to grab my keys should be killed.
> 
> --Tim May
> 
> There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws.
> Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!"
> ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:----
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 






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