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1997-12-04 - Re: Censorial leftists (Was: Interesting article)

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From: “William H. Geiger III” <whgiii@invweb.net>
To: Jim Burnes <jim.burnes@ssds.com>
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Message ID: <199712041107.GAA29227@users.invweb.net>
Reply To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971203175851.581C-100000@is-chief>
UTC Datetime: 1997-12-04 11:17:02 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 19:17:02 +0800

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From: "William H. Geiger III" <whgiii@invweb.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 19:17:02 +0800
To: Jim Burnes <jim.burnes@ssds.com>
Subject: Re: Censorial leftists (Was: Interesting article)
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In <Pine.LNX.3.95.971203175851.581C-100000@is-chief>, on 12/03/97 
   at 06:10 PM, Jim Burnes <jim.burnes@ssds.com> said:

>On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, James Love wrote:

>> Declan McCullagh wrote:
>> > 
>> > Jamie, if you're seriously confused about the differences between
>> > left-wing and right-wing groups I can help educate you, perhaps with a few
>> > rules of thumb. But I suspect that you really don't want a serious answer.
>> 
>>     I didn't think the big government fetish answer was very good.  I
>> don't want to put words in your mouth.  But if you think you can really
>> explain what constitutes a leftist, in your view, I'm ready to read it.
>> 
>>     Jamie

>Man!  Talk about burning bandwidth on politics 101.  The problem is that
>you're both stuck using Orwellian newspeak for political classification. 
>If people only have a single dimension to 
>classify political beliefs then there can't be very many
>beliefs.

>Multidimensional political beliefs systems don't hash into the one
>dimensional left/right axis very well.   The collision rate is too high.

>For a somewhat better map at least check out the Nolan chart.

>http://www.self-gov.org/lp-quiz.shtml

As I stated in my previous post the Nolan chart is flawed. In it's
attempts to be "two-dimensional" it artificially separates interdependent
philosophies. Economic Freedom = Personal Freedom. You can not have one
without the other. The major failings of the socialist is their
unwillingness to accept this fact. A free society can not survive under a
socialist regime any more that a totalitarian society can survive under a
capitalist one.

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